April 27, 2026

Ending Strong

Ending Strong

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Season 4

limb loss, limb difference, Canada

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Well, good evening, good evening, good evening. We're here. Are

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you there? Are you out there? Okay, break or breaker?

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Who's got their ears on? Welcome to another fabulous set,

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a time of dialogue and conversation and increasing in your

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knowledge to setting it straight with Miss Gray and her

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fabulous co host co hosts, and we also have some

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fabulous guests tonight. But before we go any further, we

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get to take it to the throne room. Here we go. Lord,

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We just thank you and we praise you so much.

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You alone are worthy to be praised. We thank you

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for your love, You're saving, grace and your mercy. Please,

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Father God, just have your way. We are your children.

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Thank you for the revelation. Thank you for revealing and exposing.

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Thank you for the partnerships and the elaborations. Thank you,

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Father God, thank you, thank you. Thank you for more time,

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Thank you for more time. Now we're gonna get behind

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the cross. We're gonna lean in, listen, observe, pray all

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the while while you set your captains free. In Jesus' name,

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we pray, Amen, and ain't man, and ain't man. Oh things,

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ms kas k. I'm right, I'm right, right, right, all right.

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But I don't want to go I don't want to

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delay any further. We've got we've got guests tonight. They

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are not in they're not around the way, they are

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not out of the state. They're not even in the state.

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There someplace else, and we can bring them on in

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because we're gonna welcome them. Mister Kevin G. And mister

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Chris R. But we got Chris hey, thank you, Chris,

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thank you, thank you, thank you. Well, we've got one

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more so he's gonna find his way. But anyway, thank

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you for agreeing to do this. I'm gonna get you started.

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I'll I'll tell a little piece and and and give

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him some time, get Kevin time to come on. I'm

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part of the Amputee Coalition. As you know, we're still

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celebrating limb loss and Limb Difference Awareness Month, and uh,

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this is our last Monday in the month. Three more days.

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This is the last three days of April. If you

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didn't get it done this month, just either table it

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or cross it over transferred to next month. Because May

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first is Friday. We're done. May first is here, okay,

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and soon we'll be in the summer months and time

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continues on. But anyway, I think I shared with you

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the last time sometime during this month that I was

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a part of the Amputee Coalition and on their on

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their community chat, Kevin was on, UH was a part,

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and Chris is also a member, and Kevin was getting

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ready to do interviews, and hey, Nickey, thank you, thank you,

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come on in, come on in, And I just said,

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you know what the heck, I do an interview. And

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it's been a relationship ever since I met all these

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groovy people that live in Canada, and we're on group

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chats and we're in support group settings and we've got

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we alive. They had a great event last night up there,

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I'm gonna let them tell you all about it. So Chris,

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I'm gonna get you started here, tell us how you

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got involved. And good evening, Misty, and our viewers are

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coming in. They're all over from Mississippi, Louisiana to New York,

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to Virginia to Washington. We got some pom Beach County folks,

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we got some Knoxville, Tennessee folks, and we you know,

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so they're gonna be popping in. But Chris, go ahead,

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and if you want to get us started on how,

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you know whatever, you want to share. First of all, okay,

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let's let me let me do that, okay, and then

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tell us how you got involved with the you know,

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limb loss connection. And there's my jacket back there, Lizbeth jacket.

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So for me, I guess my journey started a little

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bit more than two years ago.

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I got really sick one day. They took me to

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the hospital.

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I was in a coma for a bit and basically

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the I guess, with the medication they give you to

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try to save you, you lose a lot of blood circulation.

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So through sepsis, I lost the blood circulation through my.

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Hands and my legs.

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And then about April of twenty twenty four, I had

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surgery to amputate all four limbs and then I was

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in the hospital for a bit, went to rehab and

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in rehabit Saint John's Rehab in Canada, Toronto, Canada. That's

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where I met Kevin and we were just having some

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dialogue and I actually just want to like to do

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a little bit more computer techie. I want to create

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like an app. And I'm like, okay, maybe you can help.

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We have an idea, and he went back to his room,

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came back the next days. Again, that doesn't sound good.

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Let's let's do I think we were just going to

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start like like with a podcast, like, oh, we can

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just do like an amputee podcast, and it just kind

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of grew. So we created lim Loss Connection. Connection being

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one of the more important parts is we're basically trying

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to connect other amputees with each other because if you notice,

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maybe you might be the only one of your friends

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that have an amputee amputation. It's not more it's not

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common where multiple friends in one group have some sort

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of amputation, So you kind of feel like you're off

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on your own for a bit like no one really

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understands like what you're going through. Everyone can help, everyone

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can be nice, but no one's really going to understand

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what you're thinking is like and how you feel losing

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your limbs. And even just as other amputees, maybe they're

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I can understand, they might understand losing one, but not

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many people are going to understand losing four. So even

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in our own community, you're trying to find other people

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who you can connect with that can help you navigate

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your own journey.

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Because like, it's rough.

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It's rough when something like this happens, and you're just

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trying to figure out how to move forward and get

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back to like your normal, everyday life.

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So we kind of founded Limb Loss Connection.

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We started small, We're just trying to connect people, and

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then we just started adding members. We Miss Gray came

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on and she's been great. She's motivational, She she fills

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gaps that we didn't know that we had. She can,

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she's great at researching, and she finds us all these

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different forms and bylaws that we didn't even know we needed.

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And we have different members that kind of fill different gaps.

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We have Yeahs, who's our communications person. She's great talking.

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Maybe I'm not the best at talking. I talk a lot,

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but not the best at communication. So she kind of

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commune helps with like the communications. We have social media.

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We have Angie on there, so we have like Paolo

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and Kevin, who has the other confounder. We all you

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are certain tasks. Kevin is more the hands on taking

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care of everything, making sure everything's going. I'm a little

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bit more behind the scenes. I don't like you like

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being like the forefront. I kind of like, give me

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my cosk and let me run with it.

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You did so good at you look at you. He

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was not sure if he's going to get through it,

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and I was like, no, we will guide you. It's safe,

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it's all good. And as you all can hear, we all,

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I mean, there's there's over five points some million amptees

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and then and and you know right now that's the number.

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We're at five point two I believe million, okay, And

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everybody's got a different story. And then we break it

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down to subgroups, and then you break it down to age,

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you bring it down. I mean, you know, it's just

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it's it's it's it's and it's continuing, it's continuing. But

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we want you to know that there are resources out there,

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there are people. We know how to listen and we

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know how to gently say you know what, maybe you

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should try this, Maybe you should try that. Whereas other

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people from other communities wouldn't know, like Chris said, they

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wouldn't know, you know, really how to approach us, because

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everybody wants to help you. Everybody wants to help. They think, oh,

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I gotta help, I gotta help. It's like no, no, no,

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I'm in training today. I think I'm gonna make a

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T shirt. I'm in training today. You know, I'll let

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you know if I need help. And it's a wonderment

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that people you know, and it's everywhere, right Chris, I

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mean it's up there. It's up there in Canada as well.

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Yeah, it's it's it's a big community. I don't think

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we have as much as the States, but Lin Loss

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we're trying to cover both sections. We understand there's a

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gap between Canada and the US with the mputee awareness,

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so we do try to give out resources that maybe

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people don't know about how people like small things you

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get how do you get a wheelchair?

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How do you pick prosthetics? Anything?

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We do We have a we have our YouTube channel,

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Live Loss Connection, we have our Facebook, we have our

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Instagram page, so we're on all the platforms. Spotify, there's

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there's stories you can listen to. There's just some kind

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of talk like this today, even just like some tips.

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Maybe you're having trouble trying to get out of chairs

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and with especially as like a bilateral, you don't really

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have the flexibility. Have some tips on how to get

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out of chairs, how to eat, for example, because I

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don't have the hands right, so how do you eat

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with the prosthetic arms? And it's also to be stuff

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that we take recommendations. If someone's having trouble doing something

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and someone's good at it, we can connect them or

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even make a video on what can help other people,

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because at least from what I found, it's much easier

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to watch somebody do something thing and mimic it then

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to try to figure it out yourself, and yeah, you

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might get to the same result, Like it takes you

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some time, but if someone's already done it, it's much

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easier to follow their instructions and it might save you.

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Hours of energy.

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And as an empty we burn a lot of energy

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for doing everything.

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And we do, and we you know, and we're still people.

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We're still people. We still have the same personality. We

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may it have changed, you know, the foods that we

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eat and things like that. We have some changes too,

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but we're the same people and people, you know. I remember,

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you know, my daughter did very well as making sure

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just not anybody came to visit me in the hospital

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because I was still trying to wrap my head around

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what was going on, you know, in a coma. I

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don't know how long were you How long were you

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in your coma, Chris, I.

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Think about a week and a half to two weeks. Okay,

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that whole part is gone.

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Like I don't remember. I actually don't remember driving home

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that night.

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Like I remember picking up my girlfriend now wife, I

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remember getting picking her up, getting in the car, but

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I don't actually remember the drive home or anything after that.

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I just remember waking up in the hospital. But I

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told it it was about a week and a half

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to two weeks in the coma.

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Okay, yeah, and see we had similar I was in

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mine for three weeks, you know, and everything total loss

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until I woke up. I mean, most of the book is,

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you know, as I'm I'm just trying to tell the

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parts that it came from my daughter, Miss Kay. You know,

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she was the one that every day she knew, no, Mom,

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this is what happened, or that she just corrected me

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on something the other day she goes, no, it wasn't

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a night, it was in the daytime. I'm like, oh, shucks, okay,

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you know, And I still can't bring back some of that.

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I still cannot remember, even though she has filled in

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the bank banks really well. But you know, we all

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have that different you know, the whole difference and the

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experience and where we're at because it depends on our

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age and what were you doing before, and you know,

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and then trying to you know, immediately I was like,

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I can't go back to acting. I can't go back.

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I can't, you know. And the Lord had to quiet

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me down and say, I didn't tell you to do that.

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I need you to get some rest. And I didn't

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know what he meant at that time, because trying you know,

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PTOT coming in the nurse is waking you up at

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least every two hours, checking vitals, of drawing blood, all

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kinds of things and I'm like, oh my god, you know,

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and then they got to bathe you, and then they

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have to figure out how to bathe you, and you know,

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especially when you had your limbs on and things like that.

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So it's our stories are different. And if you want

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to please go to the Limbolos Connection dot com and

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we've got our stories are on their the interviews. We've

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got the interviews as well the stories. Chris, you want

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to tell a little bit about the website a little

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bit and what you know, folks can once they log

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in how to kind of not navigate too much, but

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you know, what they was what they could find on there.

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Could you explain that a little bit more for me,

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for us, So.

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We try to get a little bit of everything. So

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one of the main things is we have virtual support

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calls every other Sunday, which helps just amputees come together

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and they can talk about any issues on the call

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from all over North America. So there's a spot on

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the website where you can register and you'll get a

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link to if you want to join. We have resources

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such as if you're looking for clinics in your area,

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we do include the US clinics in different states. We

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have stuff on tips on like buying wheelchairs, because most

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time you probably never have to think of how do

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you buy a wheelchair? And especially like when you're in

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the hospital, it's it's very different. Like you wake up

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and all of a sudden, it's like you lose a limb,

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and it's like, oh wait, you got to get a wheelchair,

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or you've got to get these things in your home,

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and you don't know know, your family doesn't know how

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to get these things. So we help navigate new amputees

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and family members of how to get these items. We

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put on there some useful items because you don't really

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know what you need, you need it. And I'm very like,

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I'm very picky and I'm a certain way and I

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can't change the way I am. So just as an example,

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I can't wear my shoes in the house, Like we

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don't wear shoes in the house. You always take off

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your shoes, and I can't take off the shoes of

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the off the feet. So now I'm thinking, like, well,

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what am I supposed to do in the house. I

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can't just walk in my house with my shoes. So

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we went online and we found shoe covers and I

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like that was an important thing, so I put that

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on the website, just a link to do.

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Covers you go the same way. You can cover up

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your wet shoes, your dirty.

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can't really grip the toothpaste because so I can push

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the toothpaste in theer. Things like electric toothbrushes helps because

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you can't really brush the same way.

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So the electric Truth Health.

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We have links to stories other people who have similar situations,

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maybe a motorcycle accident, acepts, this diabetes. So we have

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so many different resources. We try to get something for

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everybody because knowing because we went through it, and you're

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looking for help and you don't really know where to go,

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and it's not that guarantee that the hospital you go

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to is going to know where to guide you. Like

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I was in the first hospital and they had physio

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and it's the surgical word, but no one really told

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me anything about having to get a wheelchair. They gave

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me a wheelchair from the hospital, but I didn't know

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any to my own. They didn't really know anything well

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prosthetic at that stage. It was until I went to.

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Rehab that they give you these ideas of what you need.

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So we were trying to like get stages of your recovery.

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So when you're in the hospital, maybe you want to

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look at these certain things of like dealing with like

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losing the limb, and then when you hit the rehab stage,

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it's okay, well what do you get to look at, Oh,

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rehab exercises, prosthetics, wheelchairs. Then when you go home, what

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do you need, Oh, you might need a bath chair,

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may need grab bars. So we try to get something

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for everybody because we know how difficult it is, and

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we try to listen to everybody and not leave anybody out.

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Now is their gaps. There's probably gaps that we're still

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learning with. But if somebody does give us some sort

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of suggestion that we're missing something, we're very twick to like, Okay,

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how can we add that for that person or connect

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them with somebody else.

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the one of the two leading organizations, Ampute Coalition of

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the US, and there's an Ampute coalition in Canada and

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uh the one in Canada right now has one certification

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program which is to be a peer visitor. They train

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us on how to go if if a patient or

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if an an emputee person, whether it's pre amputation or

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a post amputation, if they want a visitor, they want

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somebody that they can relate to, they call us. They'll

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try to match us as close as possible, like, well,

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I'm lower limb, I'm no toes and I'm upper limb,

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but so I'm a combo. But you know somebody made

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Chris and I are combos. You know, somebody else may

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just be upper limb, you know, and and they'll try

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to match you with that person. We're now one thing

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we don't go We don't We can't go in and

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telling them, oh, this is a great you know procethessis

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over here, or this is a great pet over here.

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are there for the emotional support and just to let

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you know you're not by yourself and there's a brighter side.

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There's a brighter side. And now now it's time to

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fight heal as best as you can, because once you're healing,

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and as you're healing, you got to get ready to fight.

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And what I mean by that is fight for your advocacy,

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fight for your rights, fight to be heard. You know

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another piece. I was thinking about this, Chris earlier today

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and even yes last night. The Lord placed it on

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my heart. Our caregivers, our families, because we go into hospital,

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we leave, we left them one way, and then months later,

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ninety seven days, one hundred days later, and then six

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months later we're getting you know, you know, having our

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surgeries and stuff, even or you have it while you're

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in the hospital during that main stay. We're coming back different.

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We're coming back a little different. And thank you Anastasia.

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You know, so we can't really tell sometimes our loved

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ones what we really need because we're still trying to

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wrap our head around what am I to do now?

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What am I to do? And getting the word out

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people need to know. Thank you, Mickey, you know what

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do I need to do? And everybody wants Then you've

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got your prosthetic people saying oh, well you could try this,

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and you could do this, and I'm like, hold, just

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hang on a minute, hang on a minute, Just give

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me a minute, you know, just give me a minute.

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I got it. Let me get used to this. Well,

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they're sneakers. There's shoes and orthopedic shoes that you see

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on Amazon are different for folks who don't have toes.

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You know, that's a different shoe even though it's a sneaker.

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I got to do veil kraw because I want to

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tie my I want to be able to put my

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own sneakers on, you know when I want to go

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for a walk and things like that. So you know

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it's different, but I want to do a piece. We

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already open to listening to our caregivers, but I really

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want to. I know we eventually once we get everybody

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that wants to come in and settled a little bit,

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and you know, designate some more you know, opportunities and

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things like that, because we can't do everything. We're not

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going to spread ourselves too thin. So we need voices

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and we need energy and all that good stuff. But

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you know, we want to talk about the caregivers because

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we want to give a shout out to them because

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they've got to They don't know what really to do,

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and sometimes we may have to snap. You know, we

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may have a bad day and they I know. They

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they're like, well, I can't leave you alone because I

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don't I don't want you falling off the bed or something,

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you know, and giving us our space. So that's a

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whole conversation right there. That's a whole different type of book.

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That's a whole different type of lecture, you know, or support,

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just to tell our our caregivers how much we love

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them and appreciate them because you put up with us

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as we're trying to navigate our personality, our to do lists.

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What I need you to do is this. What I

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need you to do is that, no, don't do that,

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you know, and without them getting their feelings hurt because

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they lost us, they have they have a loss too,

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because you know, before this, you know, I was ahead

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of my household and and I was I was making

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money and doing doing my acting and doing this and

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doing that, and staying busy while the kids were in

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school and then I could go pick them up and

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then get them home and you know, and then the

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next day back at it. And now all of a sudden,

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I'm home and I'm like, everything I used to do,

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I'm not able to do. At that time, I didn't

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think I could. I was able to bless bless God

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blessed me to be able to go back and to

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try and see how I felt acting again at the

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History Center. But I would have to have somebody with me,

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especially if I have a change of clothing, you know,

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and things like that, so you know, and then and

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then getting you see your prosthetic. That's a whole conversation.

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We're thankful for the for our new legs and arms

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and fingers and toes and everything. We're thankful it's out there.

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You it would blow your mind. You think you've seen

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the Terminator. That stuff is real, those arms, legs, that

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mechanics and everything that's real, and that was already in

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existence before Terminator came along. Where do you think they

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got it from? Then it just stopped and saying, you

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know what, we need a mechanical arm that can move

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and they can shoot out things. Don't star wars, all

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that stuff that's been there. We just happened that we

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need it. We need it, and it's a field that's growing.

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That's a whole different arena. Talking to the companies that

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make the prosthetics, and and that's you know, I don't

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know about you, you know, I you know that day

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being interviewed by my prosthetic company, you know, and I

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had to put my hand down and did this mush

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stuff to form the hand that they were gonna make

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for me, and and my feet the same way I mean,

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you know, with the toes and getting the toe fillers

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in it. You know, it's a whole story. If you

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want to listen, it's a whole story. And we're still

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we're trying to move forward. So one of the many

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things I appreciate, appreciate about Limbloss is that you've got

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things set up. You go on the website, you click

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on this. Oh, oh I didn't know that that was there.

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You click on that. Oh I didn't know that was there.

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But trying, like like Chris said, we put in we're

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uploading there, uploading all the time, so you're not alone.

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And that's the main message we want to get out

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there to let people know you're not alone, and we

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know what you're feeling. We know the loneliness, we know

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the depression, we know the fact, we know about phantom pain,

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phantom sensation. That's you know, it's so many subjects all

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over the place, all over the place, you know, So

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all right, audience or co host trade ms K come

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on Talk lit'sten. You know he's good. He's good. Guys.

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Have any question it's well, not necessarily a question, but

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something that I would like to just say. And it's

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nice meeting you, Chris, you know, thank you for sharing

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great shares on the show all the time.

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But what I was thinking when you were talking.

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About not knowing what to do, like from the hospital,

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you where that starts. So my thought was thinking, like

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a discharge or is a social worker at that point

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00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:10.319
that before isn't it a piece before your discharge?

461
00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:12.279
It's like a social worker or something like that.

462
00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:17.000
I envisioned that maybe if they have these conferences, you know,

463
00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:19.799
everybody has a conference, you know, to learn about the

464
00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:20.599
different things.

465
00:25:20.920 --> 00:25:22.480
I think it'll be great.

466
00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:26.279
If your organization presented at it may be a social

467
00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:30.319
work consortium or workshop or conference, whatever they are, and

468
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:33.200
giving them some ideas of things that they need to

469
00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:36.880
do should they encounter someone with lim law, you know

470
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:39.799
where to start, you know, because they might be at

471
00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:43.440
a loss as well, but a start as okay, preparing

472
00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:46.119
helping to prepare the family, because that's your like.

473
00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:48.640
Your go to between before going home.

474
00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:53.000
If I'm thinking correctly, that's your go to and so

475
00:25:53.079 --> 00:25:55.240
that it would behoove them maybe to do that, and

476
00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:59.759
maybe even before that, like a transition team, a team

477
00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:05.519
of people that will help the caregivers the families to navigate.

478
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:08.759
What life will look like once to discharge from the hospital.

479
00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:12.480
So that support system that will be there through the

480
00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:14.680
part of the journey. And these are knowledgeable people and

481
00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:17.920
I think maybe with your organization and you mus Gray

482
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:22.680
being part of that, you know, training transitional teams for

483
00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:27.000
families for when they're exiting things to expect the depression,

484
00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:30.720
the mood changes, the you know what else and just

485
00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:33.240
being there for a certain amount of time.

486
00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:37.319
But yeah, we're doing Yeah, we're we're right now and

487
00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:39.559
Chris always you know, correct me if I'm wrong. But

488
00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:42.960
right now, especially in up in Canada, they have put it.

489
00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:45.799
They've got made contact with some of the main hospitals

490
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:49.680
and the main doctor's, main surgeons, so we we've got

491
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:52.079
their ear and I think they came on a couple

492
00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:56.279
of times on the with the Sunday Support virtual support groups, uh,

493
00:26:56.359 --> 00:26:59.000
to just talk about some updates and things like that.

494
00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:02.599
So we're slowly, you know, getting the dealing with just

495
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:07.240
the amputee profession those who are from the PT to

496
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:10.319
the OT, to the surgeons themselves or to the doctors

497
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:13.920
the aftercare. We're right there with them right now. And

498
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:16.799
you're right, Trey. That's how I got involved with the

499
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:19.640
ampute Coalition. Well, I was involved in. I was looking

500
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:21.440
and then they're like, oh, we're coming to Orlando for

501
00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:24.160
our conference. So they came here two years ago and

502
00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:26.519
that's where I met my my my ot. She came

503
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:29.279
as my guest. You know, I mean, who does that?

504
00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:31.119
You know what I'm saying, She's got and they gave

505
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:33.559
her a day off and everything, and I was just

506
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:35.880
so happy. But you know, everybody was there. And that's

507
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:39.000
where I met my taekwondo instructor and I'm you know,

508
00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:41.960
I'm her first you know, limb loss uh you know,

509
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:46.480
uh a student. So and I'm going back, but you

510
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:48.839
know it's it's yeah, which it's just so many trying

511
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:51.079
that we're just trying to get the ear to everybody.

512
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:53.960
And and I think, and Chris, I want you to

513
00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:57.440
answer this too. I think one of my main things

514
00:27:57.960 --> 00:27:59.599
I have to sit and think about it because it's

515
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:02.480
so much much. But what my main thing is, I

516
00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:04.000
think One of my main things that I had to

517
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:06.839
come to grips with was I got to be able

518
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:09.079
to let you know when I do need help and

519
00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:12.119
when I don't need help, because I'm still trying. I'm

520
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:15.920
trying to become as independent as I can. Now that

521
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:19.680
I'm alive, I'm here. Okay, he allowed me to live,

522
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:23.279
not once but twice. Okay, I got I gotta go

523
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:27.599
forward now. But being able to accept the help. You know,

524
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:31.839
sometimes it's a hard thing. So to tell the public

525
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:34.759
at large, and even our caregivers don't get upset with us.

526
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:37.119
You really don't know if we're we wake up that

527
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:39.720
morning saying, you know what, today, I've got to do

528
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:42.759
three things. I've got to clear this list, and I

529
00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:45.079
got to do it by myself. You don't know what

530
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:46.960
we're really thinking because we don't sit there and have

531
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:49.880
a whole conference a lot because we don't know sometimes

532
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:51.480
what we need to do that day, and it just

533
00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:53.440
happens that we did it. We couldn't do it last week,

534
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:55.160
but we could do it this week. Well, Chris, what

535
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:58.400
would be something that you would right now where you're at,

536
00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:02.039
where you've been. I don't mind sharing. What would be

537
00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:04.720
something we need to know, you know, people in your

538
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:08.519
immediate circle, or your caregivers or just public at large.

539
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:11.039
What would be one thing. It's a lot, I know,

540
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:13.079
but just you can think about it if you want,

541
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:14.000
if you need to take them in.

542
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:16.240
But I'm just curious communication.

543
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:23.880
I think communication between both caregiver and amputee is very

544
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:27.599
important because and I'm not even saying I still don't

545
00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:31.480
do it for a while, I would just expect people

546
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:35.559
to know what I wanted to do without saying anything,

547
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:38.200
and then my wife would be like, oh, why don't

548
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:38.640
you just.

549
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:42.279
Use your words? Like And it's funny because you say

550
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:44.519
to kids like, oh you, what do you want? What

551
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:45.319
are you being upset?

552
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:47.319
But I was doing it and I don't even know

553
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:49.519
why I was doing it. I would just be sitting

554
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:52.400
I'm like, okay, well I need to do this. Oh

555
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:55.079
my put my hearing aids in and she's like, well,

556
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:56.680
if you don't tell me, how am I supposed to know,

557
00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:57.960
like you what you want me to do?

558
00:29:58.519 --> 00:29:59.599
And I don't.

559
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:01.759
I I don't really know why I was doing it,

560
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:04.640
but I'm like, okay, I need to like get better.

561
00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:08.000
I like speaking, maybe because I'm not used to asking

562
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:10.799
for help. It's weird for me to like be like, oh,

563
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:11.359
can you do this?

564
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:13.119
And what can you do that? And can you do this?

565
00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:16.680
So I feel like communication and like, yeah, if you

566
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:18.839
want to try something, tell them like, hey, let me

567
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:21.720
try putting on my shirt by myself, because I feel

568
00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:24.480
like when you you don't really know what you can

569
00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:26.920
do until you try it, and you don't really know

570
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:29.680
what the issue is. And a lot of times I'll

571
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:31.680
do something and my wife will be like, why I've

572
00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:33.440
been helping you this whole time. You clearly can do

573
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:36.200
it by yourself, so now do it by yourself. Like

574
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:41.759
that I would help me with myself and then She'll

575
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:43.640
be going somewhere and I'll just be like, okay, let

576
00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:45.759
me just do this, and then she comes back to like,

577
00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:48.440
what the heck? Like, so why have I been doing this?

578
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:50.839
Like do it yourself? And it was it was just

579
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:52.759
and kind of like you were saying, like try to

580
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:55.359
do three things a day, but just try to do

581
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:58.920
something like I'll just use an example for everybody, was

582
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:01.559
brushing my teeth because I can't grab the toothbrush, and

583
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:03.680
then in my head I'm troublestreating like, well, how do

584
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.279
I do this? So I just took my electric toothbrush

585
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:09.880
and I sat on the couch. No water, no nothing

586
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:12.880
nice and dry. And I sat on the couch and

587
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:14.920
then I'm like, okay, well how do I balance it?

588
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:17.480
And so I just I sat there and played with

589
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:19.359
it for a bit. How do I balance it on

590
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:21.039
my arm? How do I hold it down? How do

591
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:23.119
I put a little bit of pressure? And then after

592
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:25.559
like five to ten minutes, I'm like, oh, I found

593
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:27.319
a good way to do this. And then the next

594
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:29.079
it was like, okay, well let me try to like

595
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:32.720
use some water. And then I again, I got to

596
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:34.839
like a toothpaste dispenser so I can just push the

597
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:36.200
thing and get the toothpaste.

598
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:37.960
And I figured out how to balance it.

599
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:40.279
I figured out how to like get in my electric

600
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:42.319
truth of his tea because like it does most of

601
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:45.119
the work. But it was more just figuring out the balance.

602
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.200
I have like a compression sleeve sometimes on my arm.

603
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:52.079
I can't use that when I'm brushing my teeth because

604
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:52.880
it's slides.

605
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:53.720
I don't have the grip.

606
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:55.920
So I'm like, okay, I have to make sure it's

607
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:59.359
all my skin to balance. But it's like those little

608
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:03.200
things unless you try to do it. You're not going

609
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:05.400
to know. And then you find out whether you can

610
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:08.240
do it, what it takes to do it, and like

611
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:10.960
then you can troubleshoot a little bit more so kind

612
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:13.640
of give yourself a little bit of credit and try.

613
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:15.519
You get a little bit lazy and you just get

614
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:18.480
complacences because someone's doing it for you. You're not really going

615
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:20.839
to know if you can do it or what you

616
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:23.240
need to be able to do whatever you're trying to do.

617
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:26.640
Yeah. I was in ot and PT one time, and

618
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:29.759
you know, when I have my prosthetic arm. We were

619
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:32.599
doing exercises and doing things and then we took it.

620
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:34.440
We take it off to give my arm arrest because

621
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:36.240
it's a heavy thing. It's heavy, even though I got

622
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:40.240
a little lighter one, but it's still heavy. And by

623
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:43.200
ot Christina had Christina had to say, ms Gray, you

624
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:46.519
know you can use your arm and I'm looking at him,

625
00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:49.559
like what because you're not using the rest of your arm.

626
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:53.359
I literally forgot that I got this much of arm

627
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:56.319
that I could use, you know, because I'm so used to.

628
00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:58.960
I got to put something on that and I'm like,

629
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:01.799
oh my, and I said then I teared up because

630
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:06.160
because I didn't realize. I really didn't know because I

631
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:09.359
was protected. I can't use this. My hand is gone,

632
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:11.480
my fingers are gone, But no I can't because I

633
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:13.559
use this to balance. I used this to pick up

634
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:16.440
things I get back people in the store, like you know,

635
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:19.359
you need some help. No, no, no, I load the arm

636
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:21.960
up as is, you know, with my bags and stuff,

637
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:23.519
as long as I can make it out the door,

638
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:25.319
thank god. All of to do is put my body

639
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:28.720
on the car and unlock my door and stuff like that.

640
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:33.319
So you know, it's amazing. Last year, I think sometime

641
00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:37.920
when we were honoring over the last couple of aprils,

642
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:41.839
I brought on all my gadgets, my assistant devices, my

643
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:45.319
cup handles and stuff. And Amazon is just they have

644
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:48.680
really kept up with the industry. I have to give

645
00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:52.039
them my applause because anything you can it's from scissors

646
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:58.519
to cups, cup holders, socks, all kinds of things. You

647
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:00.319
can go to Amazon and just put in this search

648
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:03.839
bar assisted devices. That's all you have to do and

649
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:06.200
it's gonna come up. It's gonna you know, whatever you

650
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:10.440
may need. So any any questions, come on, guys, come on, audience.

651
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:12.000
I know y'all listening. Something.

652
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:15.199
I don't have any questions. But you know, mister Chris,

653
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.480
I thank you for sharing your story, and I just

654
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:22.039
loved how you shared of you know, some people being lazy,

655
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:24.039
you know, saying doing things that.

656
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:28.920
You didn't say lazy. Don't call me then after the fact,

657
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:34.320
but tell because somebody see what I live with.

658
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:38.440
Enjoys, you know, when we do everything when they're completely capable.

659
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:39.480
Of doing it themselves.

660
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:43.880
But I didn't make herself her own meal today so well,

661
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:45.800
not like actually like making it, but like you know,

662
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:47.280
heating up some food for herself.

663
00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:51.559
I definitely just as like my wife does love this stuff,

664
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:53.760
and I try and like I'm like, oh okay, let

665
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:55.320
me try you if I can do the laundry, and

666
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:58.679
I'll try to do those things. But what I noticed

667
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:00.880
is it's kind of like you have to work as

668
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:05.360
a team because the caregiver is also scared that you're

669
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:08.360
going to hurt yourself and you're trying to show that

670
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:11.039
you can do something. Because it kind of brought me

671
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:13.360
when you're talking about like getting the cart bags from

672
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:16.039
the car and I'm like, okay, give me a bag,

673
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:19.000
and she's like no, Like you have to walk in balance,

674
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:20.239
like I'll carry everything.

675
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:21.519
She's trying to carry.

676
00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:23.559
All the bags, and it took her a while to

677
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:25.679
be like okay, well okay, this one's like here take

678
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:28.239
this one. And then like I'm like, okay, if I

679
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:30.360
have my prosthetics arms, can I put it on?

680
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:31.639
Is it too heavy? As it hurt?

681
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:33.719
And then same thing, I just grip it with my

682
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:37.039
elbow or put it over my shoulder. And then I

683
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:40.639
think the other day, we want pizza, but you can't

684
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:43.239
carry the bags and the pizza. So I'm like, okay,

685
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:44.800
just give me the bag. She gets heavy. I'm like,

686
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:46.800
no it, just give it to me. I'll take my time.

687
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:49.599
So she gave me a big Costco bag. I just

688
00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:51.760
throw it over my shoulder. She set me up, and

689
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:54.519
then I'm like okay, I'm like just go like let me.

690
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:56.639
I'll walk behind you. I'll take my time. I'll make

691
00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:59.360
sure I don't like try to rush. But it still

692
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:02.800
took her time time to allow me to do those things.

693
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:06.320
Because your character but also doesn't want you to get hurt.

694
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:10.280
They feel responsible for you. So if you fall, even

695
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:13.239
though it's your fault, they're going to feel guilty that

696
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:15.880
you felt because they didn't stop you.

697
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:17.800
From falling and he can't help it.

698
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:20.719
Like, if you fall, you fall, like it happens, but

699
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:24.519
like they also feel like they're tied to you if

700
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:27.440
you fall or get hurt. So you kind of have

701
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:30.320
to work together a little bit and maybe take a

702
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:33.000
step out of time so that they also feel comfortable

703
00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:35.840
allowing you to stay home by yourself. It took my

704
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:37.719
wife for a long time, or she would leave me

705
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:39.880
in the house by myself, and I'm like, I'm fine,

706
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:41.639
Like I'm not going anywhere. Just put my legs on.

707
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:43.199
I can go to the washroom if I need to

708
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:45.840
go to the bathroom. There's nothing major that's going to happen.

709
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:48.440
But it took her some time. Now she leaves, you

710
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:50.559
can go go to grocery shopping, come back and I'm

711
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:51.400
still in one piece.

712
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:57.519
Yeah, I'm behind twenty four to seven, but just trying

713
00:36:57.519 --> 00:36:58.000
to track me.

714
00:36:58.079 --> 00:36:58.360
She is.

715
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:01.559
Trying to track me. You know, mam, you need to

716
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:03.920
get an I she turns off your phone, I feel

717
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:05.400
like I'm gone. I'm gone.

718
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.559
It's definitely an old school thing with turning your phone

719
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:11.159
off while you're running errings. It makes no sense to

720
00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:14.480
me because it's like I'm trying to reach you, and.

721
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.159
What if I have something going on, like how would

722
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:16.400
you know?

723
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:19.880
Like she does that, she turns her phone off.

724
00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:21.960
Because I don't want to take everything. I have a

725
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:24.920
cross body handbag. I got to get to my money.

726
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:26.840
I got to get to my change first. You know,

727
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:28.239
I don't need to get me trying to get to

728
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:30.199
the cell phone, because it's gonna take me a minute.

729
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:33.159
I've got to get my phone. Got to get the phone.

730
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:35.199
Then I got to lay it here, and then I

731
00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:37.559
got to, you know, maneuver. I don't have time for

732
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:40.079
that because when I leave here, I want to go

733
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:41.840
do what I need to do and come back.

734
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:45.280
See I have her run down, like her plans for today,

735
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:48.199
and then sometimes it changes. So when she answers the phone,

736
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:51.400
I know she's doing something extra than what she told me.

737
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.039
I just don't trust her when she goes out by herself,

738
00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:55.119
because she's by herself.

739
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:59.039
No really think I'm going to see something. I'm seeing

740
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:03.400
somebody trade. They think I'm not worried about that. Let

741
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:05.480
her know that I'm not worried about that.

742
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:07.599
You let me, I'm not worried.

743
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:10.039
You put on can you put in earbuds? Get her

744
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:11.880
some air pods. So she just touched them on the

745
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:15.679
phone will answer and then you can answer ideas.

746
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:19.920
Unfortunately, mister Chris, I'm sure the aeropods will work with them. Still,

747
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:22.840
who sided you.

748
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:28.199
On, Chris? But it is hard. It is a conversation

749
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:31.320
and letting people, you know. Let and Anna Stagia had

750
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:34.719
a question, do you when do you ask us for help?

751
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:38.000
Watch our body language, our eyes will tell you because

752
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.880
if we're like trying you because most of y'all are

753
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:43.519
standing and watches right, so we're trying to get the bag,

754
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:46.519
we're trying to get reach in the basket. All you

755
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:48.920
have to you can say hey, I can help, and

756
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:51.920
we may say no, thank you, and you have to

757
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:54.639
accept that and you'll have to walk away. But there

758
00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:57.599
was a time recently I said, but you would you

759
00:38:57.920 --> 00:38:59.960
The person was staring at me so long because they didn't.

760
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:01.639
They were frozen, like I don't know what to do

761
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:03.159
it other what to do? And I said, could you?

762
00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:06.480
Oh yes, And I'm like, okay, all that you know,

763
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:08.599
but they were staring at me for so long. But

764
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:10.760
thank you for asking. And I told you all the

765
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:14.239
situation when I was in Walmart and I accidentally put

766
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:17.000
the soda on the basket on the inside, which is

767
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:21.239
where the conveyor belt was, instead of putting it on

768
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:23.840
the outside. Because I'm taking I'm walking around and I'm

769
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:27.039
getting everything and putting up so and the gentleman behind

770
00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:29.119
me was standing there like and I could tell, I

771
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:31.400
swore he stopped breathing because he didn't know what to do.

772
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:34.599
So I just walked around my basket, pulled it out

773
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:37.159
a little bit, lifted up my sodas, and I said,

774
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:41.159
I'm okay. He said, oh, thank you, I said, I said,

775
00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:43.960
I'm okay, and thank you for not saying anything, because

776
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:46.480
I'm really working on independence. The cashier was about to

777
00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:48.400
pass out because she's like, I can't even get to

778
00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:50.920
her fast. I can't get around fast enough just to

779
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:53.159
get the soda on the out of the basket. I

780
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:54.559
don't put it on the side. And then what put

781
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:57.000
it in the basket now, you know? So it's just

782
00:39:57.039 --> 00:39:59.360
little things like that. And we're always learning things about

783
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:04.000
ourselves too. Every day. We have a new normal every day.

784
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:09.480
Yeah, and scared, like both sides, Like if you see

785
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:12.920
someone struggling, all this is like, oh do you need help?

786
00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:16.360
And if it's no, okay, no problem, or if you're

787
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:18.920
the ampute who needs help. It's very easy to just

788
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:21.039
be like, oh, do you mind just helping me? And

789
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:22.639
it's hard. Like, don't get me wrong, I don't ask

790
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:25.760
anybody for anything. I never really if I needed something,

791
00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:27.599
I would just figure it out myself. I never did,

792
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:30.079
so now it's hard to ask. And I don't know

793
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:32.039
who told. I don't know if it is great or someone.

794
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:33.920
In one of the virtual calls, they're.

795
00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:35.480
Like, when you go to a restaurant, just ask them

796
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:36.239
to cut up your steak.

797
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.159
And I'm like, oh, they're like, yeah, they have no

798
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:41.920
problem because otherwise my wife's cutting it up. And then

799
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:44.440
I'm like, so every time I go they I'm like,

800
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:46.239
do you mind just slicing it? And they're like, yeah, sure,

801
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:48.519
it comes all sliced uff in pieces. I can just

802
00:40:48.559 --> 00:40:51.199
scoop it onto a spoon, and yeah, it doesn't come

803
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:54.960
as nicely as you want to take pictures for all

804
00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:57.000
the girls want to take pictures of their food. But

805
00:40:57.519 --> 00:40:59.320
it makes it so much easier and it saves you

806
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:01.719
so much time. And then it also lets my wife

807
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:04.280
eat her food because she's not worrying about trying to

808
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:05.719
cut up my food and feed me.

809
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:06.159
The food.

810
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:09.440
It's in pieces that I can just scoop it and

811
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:11.960
eat on my own and then her food doesn't go cold.

812
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:17.039
But it's really just being comfortable asking for help or

813
00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:18.960
asking somebody if they need help.

814
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:20.840
You don't have to like jump in, you just have

815
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:21.760
to ask.

816
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:25.679
Yeah, don't hover over us, don't you know? Oh we don't.

817
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:28.480
Don't do that, because I'd like, don't touch me, don't

818
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:30.840
don't even come near me, because you got the wrong

819
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:33.760
idea already. You know, and and and and I know

820
00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:37.159
you you really mean, well, but just give me a minute.

821
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.559
And as I was telling the gentleman at walmart, I said, yeah,

822
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:41.920
just you never know when we're working on our independence.

823
00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:43.760
He said, I get you, he said, but thank you?

824
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:45.760
He said, oh my god. He said that just bother

825
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:48.039
me because I want to jump it in help. And

826
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:49.519
one time I was at olive Guard and I was

827
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:52.000
there by myself. I always get my to go cups.

828
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:55.480
I have to take my handle in And so I'm

829
00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:58.079
watching the restroom. I seeing who's leaving, who's gonna not

830
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:01.159
be between me and the exit door. Believe it or not,

831
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:04.480
I'm sitting here looking, Okay, I'm judging. I said, okay,

832
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:06.280
I'm gonna hurry up. I'm not gonna take her to

833
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:08.559
go cup with me, So I'm gonna get up and go.

834
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:11.039
I'm not gonna have any food. I've been leaving food

835
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:13.519
on the plate. Normally I don't leave food on a plate.

836
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:16.360
I asked for to go back or whatever, but this

837
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:17.960
time I said no. I got to get out that

838
00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:20.639
door because it was really packed. So I was good.

839
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:23.000
I was good. I was walking, you know, I was

840
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:25.360
making it. I could see the door and all of

841
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:28.039
a sudden, I don't know where these people convened, just

842
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:30.920
just came from nowhere, and it was kids, and they

843
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:33.360
were right on me, and I'm just trying to get

844
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:35.519
to the door. So this guy he's coming in, so

845
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:37.519
instead of holding the door open for me, he's gonna

846
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:39.960
walk in. I mean, I'm like, and I could like,

847
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:43.639
you know, we're we were wobbles, you know, even though

848
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:47.199
we've got good shoes on, we are unsteady sometimes and

849
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:50.039
if you bump us, there's nothing we could do. There's

850
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:52.440
really nothing. And I don't want to fall. I don't

851
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:54.519
want to go back to the hospital. And so by

852
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:56.880
the time I got I thank god, the handicapped parking

853
00:42:56.960 --> 00:42:59.400
was right there. By the time I got to my car,

854
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:02.719
I was just tears because I felt so bad. I mean,

855
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:05.280
like you all didn't even you could even see because

856
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:07.440
they were behind me, but the guy was in front

857
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:10.400
of me, and I'm like, you're so inconsiderate, and I'm like,

858
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:13.039
I'll never come out by myself again. I'll never go

859
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:15.360
eat by myself. I can't go and eat. And I

860
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:18.400
had all these thoughts in my head because I can't

861
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:20.599
do this because they were just that one time, but

862
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:23.159
I've been going ever since. But you know, it's just,

863
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:27.800
you know, it's just you know, we pivot. We pivot,

864
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:31.400
you know, and sometimes I there are times when we

865
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:33.599
go out to eat. If I go by myself, I

866
00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:36.039
got to know, Okay, I can only get this or

867
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:38.760
that because I can't. I don't have anybody to cut

868
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:41.239
up my food. So I can't enjoy a steak tonight

869
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:44.239
because they don't cut food our food down here, Chris

870
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:47.199
for some reason. Then you know, I've asked, would you

871
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:48.760
mind if they could you ask the chef to cut

872
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:51.360
it up. Well, we can't do that, Oh okay, you know,

873
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:53.880
so then nope, just give me chicken breast, So give

874
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:55.519
me the meat loaf. You know, give me a fish

875
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:57.840
that I could just take my fork and just jab

876
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:00.480
it and stuff. So they don't know to down here.

877
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:03.039
For some reason, in Orlando, some of the restaurants will

878
00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:06.519
not cut up my food, so you know, and you know,

879
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:08.880
whe of the kids is with me, they you know,

880
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:12.239
they grab the plate and like okay immediately and they

881
00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:14.480
cut up real quick, and I'm ready to go. I'm

882
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:19.039
good to go, So you know, I'm still trying. Yes, Trey, oh,

883
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:21.559
she wants to say something, say something, Tray. We got

884
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:23.280
a few more minutes.

885
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:29.639
I'm visualized unities for sensitivity training, whether restaurants, because this

886
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:32.119
is how you can pitch it. I would have bought

887
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:34.000
the steak, but I wouldn't have been able to do it.

888
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:36.400
So now I bought the chicken. So if you're trying

889
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:39.440
to help me, spend some money so I can enjoy it.

890
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:42.440
These are the accommodations I need, not you know, but

891
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.320
just the conversations around because sometimes people.

892
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:46.239
Just don't think about it.

893
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:51.599
And I might be have conversations with franchises or managers. Hey,

894
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:55.599
if you have somebody in and maybe the extra part

895
00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:58.480
would be do you need special accommodations because they do

896
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:02.039
it at the gas station. If you need special accommodations,

897
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:05.000
push the button for the clerk. Same thing with that.

898
00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:07.199
Is there something maybe on the menu if you need

899
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:11.199
a special accommodations, please let the waitress or waiter know,

900
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:13.639
and then that could look like anything.

901
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:16.880
That could be anything. Because I understand, Chris.

902
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:18.360
Who you want to be able to go out with

903
00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:20.000
your wife and let her enjoy her food.

904
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:21.400
I understand that stay.

905
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:23.639
With you, Miss Kate, with Miss Gray, but you should

906
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:27.159
not have to forego what you want because nobody's on

907
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:32.320
the other end. The restaurants brought to their attention, they

908
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:34.960
might do it and maybe they never thought about that.

909
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:37.840
You see what I'm saying, Because I want to say

910
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:41.079
chicken because you you should not have to and maybe

911
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:41.960
bring it to the atta.

912
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:43.079
So that's my.

913
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:45.599
Thought at least I'm not sure about in the States,

914
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:50.239
but in Canada, Google reviews are like gold, especially for

915
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:55.800
long businesses. And I've left a batter view because something

916
00:45:55.880 --> 00:45:59.719
happened and they contact me right, oh we're so sorry,

917
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:02.840
blah blah blah. But it's very easy to go on

918
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:05.559
there and be like, oh, went into this restaurant one star,

919
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:08.440
the food was okay, asked them to do something as

920
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:12.840
I'm disabled and they said no, So they weren't. It's

921
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:14.880
not like you're asking for something crazy, like they have

922
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:17.559
knives in the back, they can't why can't they cut

923
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:20.280
it up? Like they can clearly see you you have

924
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:23.199
a disability, and you can't hold the knife to do it,

925
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:26.440
So they're limiting your food options. So like, that's what

926
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:28.639
I usually do if if I get some great service

927
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:32.320
from somebody, I leave a great review mentioning like, oh,

928
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:35.239
like they were very thoughtful, they did this, they did that.

929
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:39.119
But if they're bad, I clearly leave something like oh

930
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:41.400
they did this, this and this, they didn't care And

931
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:44.679
then usually they'll be like, oh, we're so sorry about that.

932
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:48.000
But at least then people know going forward because if

933
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:50.920
they get a few bad reviews, people will look at

934
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:52.400
it and they're going to lose business.

935
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:56.320
So they're very quick to like address it right away.

936
00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:58.360
So maybe that could be your thing if they're If

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they're like that, they're leaving use for them and let

938
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people know about how about their businesses.

939
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Did they ask prior to them cutting up the food? Yeah?

940
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I would. I mean, I hear what Chris is saying

941
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and I would you know, if I'm by myself and

942
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they're taking in my servers taking my order, that would

943
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may be a better time to say, could you have

944
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the chef just cut it up a couple of pieces

945
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for me? I really appreciate it, you know, and see

946
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what what what? They respond? But I have had them

947
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after the food was almost getting ready to come out,

948
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and say could you have them cut that up? No,

949
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we can't do that. Okay?

950
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Oh why them?

951
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Once I placed the order, I'm like, okay this and

952
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do you mind asking the chef to cut it? And

953
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usually they're like okay, I no problem and it always

954
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comes up nicely twice in the smaller pieces.

955
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:44.719
Okay, sounds good. Okay. I don't know who's trying to

956
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interrupt this k there. I know that's not jazz walking

957
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on her hind feet. So anyway, Chris, okay, which one

958
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:57.320
got okay? But the one who made the music, Chris,

959
00:47:57.320 --> 00:47:59.840
did you pay attention to the music? If you next,

960
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:02.280
as we're going off, listen to the music. My baby

961
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:04.039
boy created the theme music for us.

962
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Nice.

963
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It's really cool. But thank you, Chris. Anything else I

964
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mean we want as that's our time, this is our

965
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last Monday in April, and we've done it, and thank

966
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you for just really putting the exploding candles on the

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cake tonight. But anything you want to leave audience with

968
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you anymore. As we're signing off.

969
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Just thank you so much for having me, and please

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if you guys, visit our website Limlosconnection dot com. We're

971
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on YouTube under Limloss Connection. There's some stories, there's some

972
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:41.360
amp talks on Instagram. We're getting more content goings soon.

973
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We'll have our Sea and Tower event with some photos

974
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and videos. Also a Limbnlos Connection on Instagram, and we're

975
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on Spotify and Facebook also under Limloss Connection. So just

976
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search us, follow us, check out our posts. If you

977
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like it, please like and subscribe to our our channels

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as well, and then hopefully that can help us bring

979
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more content and newer stuff for things. And if you

980
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:08.920
have any suggestions of something you'd like to see, you

981
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:10.880
can always leave something in the comments that if you

982
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:13.519
want to see another type of video or something we

983
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can talk about, we can look to see if we

984
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can get some content for that.

985
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Thank you, everybody give it up for mister Chris. Thank you.

986
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We'll see y'all next week, same time, same station, take

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us home, Yes, ins