Social Justice Day

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Well, good evening, good evening, good evening, and welcome to

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another exciting show. Dialogue, the
most talked about talk show podcast in Florida,

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no, in the whole United States. And we're just thankful and we

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are giving God praise. Before I
say hello to everybody, we're gonna pray,

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and then I'm gonna bid everybody a
cheery hello. Let's pray. Father.

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We just thank you, We praise
you. We give you glory for

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you alonea worthy to be praised.
We thank you, Father, God for

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making a way out of dorway.
We thank you for healing properties and being

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able to call out to you.
We thank you for the favor. We

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thank you for allowing us to go
from point A to point B and back

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to point A. We thank you, Father God, that you're in the

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classroom with us. We thank you. We're in you're in the den with

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us, and we're thank you that
you're in the neighborhood with us. Father,

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I thank you. We thank you
so much for everything that you have

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done and more and and that would
just yet to come. We love you

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so much. We love you because
you love us unconditionally. Now this is

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your time to talk to your people. We stand behind the cross. You

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do what you do best and set
the captains free. In Jesus name,

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we pray, Amen and amen.
Well, welcome to my mighty, mighty

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host. We got ms trade from
all the way from Virginia. What's happening

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up there? How you doing?
Hey? Hey, hey, but we

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don't have to ride trade. We
don't have to ride. They gonna think

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something. No, fine, no
fine, Okay, we're gonna talk about

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your weather in a minute. I
want to welcome brother Miguel la mo Reno

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written a. Now, oh my
god, oh please forgive just remember hey

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my corena, but say hey li
Morena. Well, thank you, sir,

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and how are you, and thank
you for being on with us tonight.

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Well, thank you for inviting me. And it's a pleasure being here

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with all of you and sharing this
time with you, and really looking forward

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to seeing where where the Lord leads
us and what we're going to learn in

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our conversation today, and really looking
forward to growing with all of you,

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because this is a great opportunity.
Amen, and thank you so much.

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Thank you. And of course I
have my mini me to the probably your

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right to the left of me,
Miss Belsia, we'll call him miss Nighting.

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How are you doing? How's your
work with your week going? And

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we interrupted her studying flow and her
homework and she's all about that now.

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She'd be looking at you like,
don't be bothering me, don't come over

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here. But we just think you, hey, tout you see, how

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were you? How are you tonight? You're doing good? You're doing good.

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You gotta talk a little louder now, Okay, okay, y'all here,

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okay, all right, country see, thank you for being on tonight.

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Thank you. I want to thank
everybody for their prayers. As most

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some of you know, I was
out sick. I got food poisoned,

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and then this past weekend went through
another food poisoning. But thank God,

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I just got you know, Jesus
stepped right on in and cleaned me out.

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And I told the co host before
we got on that I lost I

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know, I lost ten pounds and
it's stay it off. So I got.

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I got a rushing and running exercise
and do what I need to do.

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But I'm just thankful for the prayers. I'm just trying to get this

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teep this line up there we go, thankful for the prayers of everybody and

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everything. Is this no joke,
And we'll talk about a little bit of

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what's going on with food and expiration
dates and all that kind of stuff.

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But Trey, how's the weather then, Virginia. It's cold, but hopefully

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we'll have some life of weather next
week. Oh next week, yeah,

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I think end of this week.
Next week maybe sixties. So definitely looking

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forward to the spring. I'm not
a winter person, but spring summer I

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am. I love the Yeah,
she missed Florida back in the day.

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Now I love part rain rain over
there, and you're you're part of the

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city of the state. Yesterday I
would say that, uh, we got

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a pretty good, doubt, a
pretty good dousing in the amount of water

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that we received, not like in
your area, because I know your area.

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You got it Friday night, Saturday, and Sunday. We were fortunate

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to get it yesterday. But what's
interesting is in Florida, when you get

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the amount of rain that we got, h then comes to coal front.

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And this is why I'm wearing an
actual flannel, believe it or not,

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because it was a little cooler than
than what I expected. But it's all

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it's all good, it's all good. It's all part of the all part

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of the uh the program that God
has established. So we just have to

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We know that when it snows,
it's gonna melt and we have another day.

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And if it's gonna rain, we
got sunshine at the end of the

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afternoon. So all part of the
plan. Yeah, yeah, we and

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at least the meteorologists were somewhat correct
this round and in their warnings and their

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predictions and you know and things.
So I'm thankful for that. But we

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have to still be mindful of being
careful looking out for one another. These

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streets are not They're slick all all
over the place. Now we've got potholes

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that have been forming, and and
you know you got water in that and

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things like that. So we still
need to be careful about things. And

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we're gonna later talk. We're gonna
talk about our topic. But I want

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to say two things, and my
co hosts are not aware of this.

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First and foremost, we're not here
to compete with anybody. We're doing what

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God told us to do done.
We're not here to compete. We're not

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here to be better. I mean
no, We're here to do what God

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has orchestrated us to do. And
we already have witnesses, we have the

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receipts on lives that have been changed, and that's what it's all about.

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At the end of the hour,
we could be on here today, We're

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probably gonna be on another year.
We fade to black, we goes to

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exit stage left, and we keep
moving. We keep moving. So I'm

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honored when I see on other shows
podcasts, folks are you know, you

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know, kind of tagging along with
our topics and things like that. That's

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fine, whatever works for your audience, But we're not here to compete with

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you. Don't We don't want to
beat you. You were having a hard

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time being ourselves and walking in our
own shoes. So I want to say

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that's foremost, that's correct. Thank
you now. Having said that, there's

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no room for jealousy in this world. There's no room for jealousy. Cut

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it out, be who you need
to be. If you don't like who

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you are, change yourself because you're
the only one that can do it.

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But there's no room for that.
There's no room for backbiting. No,

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there's no more room for that.
Lord, guys, we're we're in the

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end times, and we're closer today
than we were yesterday. We got enough

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to work could be concerned about.
We have enough work for everybody. And

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believe it or not, there's enough
money out here in the grant world,

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in the philanthropy world, in the
foundational world, there's enough money out there

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for everybody. So go get what
you're supposed to go get, Go do

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what you're supposed to go do.
I don't have time to stop because you

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you're added to my to do list. What I'm hearing things or picking up

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things in the spirit, I don't
I don't need I don't need it.

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God protects us all. Let me
just in case, y'all didn't know,

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but God protects us all on this
show, on this prodcast. I can't

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speak for others, but I know
who governs our life. So please don't

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play with us, keep our names
out your mouth. You don't like things,

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It's okay, move on. There's
plenty of podcasts to watch, twenty

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of all all shapes and sizes.
Okay, So let's do that and let's

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be nice. That's all I'm gonna
say with that. Tonight we're gonna be

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talking about social justice and what that
means. And I'm so glad all the

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co hosts are tonight because we we're
gonna hear it from a different, different

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perspec what the social justice mean to
you? And are we in the throes

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of it? Are we doing this
right? Are we attending to the matters

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at hand that we can where we
can make a difference. Okay, but

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this show teaches us to be a
better in life. Oh Country Sea,

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thank you so much, God blessed
you. That's what We're here to set

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it straight. We're here to set
it straight. We're gonna dig up the

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lies, we're gonna dig up the
misinformation, and we're gonna share with you

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as we can So that's why I'm
so blessed, and we can move.

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You know, we're gonna be able
to add our influence and our input on

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what's going on in today's society.
Lastly, I need to say to y'all,

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it's getting ugly out here. It's
getting uglier out here, and you've

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got God's people. I'm talking to
his women within the remnant. You got

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the hold on. You got the
hold on. You cannot lose faith right

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now. I don't care what what's
not on your door. Right now,

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you've got to hold on to be
strong by a sweatshirt just happens to say

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normal, normalcy, and normal is
not coming back. I am so sorry

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to let you know to be the
informant of this news. But if by

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now we're going into four years since
COVID, since twenty twenty, well,

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we were forced to live a whole
to figure it out day by day.

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We were forced to make things,
try to be okay with our families.

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Some of y'all had to deal with
your children that the teacher kept telling you

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I need a parent conference, and
you just kept blowing them off. And

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you finally had to get a ringside
view of what that teacher deals with six

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and a half hours, seven hours
a day, So y'all didn't learn and

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you were earn that student back in
that environment, and now you're reaping those

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percussions. So you need to understand
that you need to be figuring out your

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new normal as best as you can, almost on a daily basis. Mister.

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Yes, listening to this show has
made me a better person in seeing

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things differently. God bless you.
We have awesome, awesome viewers. Thank

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you, Thank you so much.
You're in our family. You're not alone.

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I'm talking to you and Country Sea. I was praying for you all

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today, just I was just thinking
about y'all and praying for y'all today.

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So know that you've got folks covering
y'all in prayer. Okay, please know

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that, And if you need us, all you have to do is just

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travail one time. We'll pick you
up. We'll pick you up because Heaven

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is listening. But we thank you
for that. We're hoping to do whatever

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and God does. That's what God
does. He changes lives. Once you

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ain't having an encounter with God or
you get it, you get it,

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you figure it out how to get
closer to him. Are you purpose?

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Are you become determined that you're going
to be a better person in him?

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And he's the only way to do
it. You can't help, but change,

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you can't thinks. He just peels
back the curtain. He just lets

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you peek for just a little bit
and you see a whole different view.

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He's still I mean, I had
to laugh. He had me chuckling today

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because he just snuck a little blessing
and I said, God, you're so

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You're so funny. Thank you.
I needed that at that time. Thank

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you. So let's go to talking
about social injustice now. I know we

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can name a whole bunch of them
us. Everything right now is in the

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pressure cooker. Every topic, every
arena, every department, every age group,

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every gender group, every you can
name it, you know, But

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what do we do? How do
we deal with social injustice? What do

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we do with that? When do
we make up our minds? How do

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you know what you should be fighting
for or praying? Over me? I'm

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gonna be honest with you, then
I want everybody to hop I'm gonna folks

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to hop in come on co host
for me. I'm not one that will

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be marching. I'm not one that
will be in a parade with a sign.

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If you see me on the street
walking with a sign, Jesus is

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right next to me and we're bringing
it homes. I'm not one of those,

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but I can pray behind the scenes. I'm more of a behind the

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scenes person when it comes to justice
issues, and that's when I'm praying.

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Disability, amputeeism, my aging Americans. Those are some of my issues.

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And you may I may be led
to contact a representative or whatever, but

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before I do that, I pray
first. I'm just letting you know what

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I do. Brother Miguel, you
have any insight on this, well,

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I'll be completely transparent here. I
really wanted to delve into the actual word.

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What does social injustice mean? Now? A little a little backstory about

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me. I was born in nineteen
sixty three in New York City, and

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my parents left Cuba in nineteen fifty
eight, right before the Castro regime and

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communism was introduced into the island of
Cuba. And there there was a lot

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of things that transpired during that time. And basically, the government would go

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in and take people's property and they
would tell the owners of those homes,

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you have five minutes to get out. That's what communism is. The other

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thing is that I have a mentor
of mine who is a pastor, and

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his father started the church in Cuba
during the communism regime, and when he

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would be when he would begin his
sermons, there would be people throwing rocks,

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bottles, bricks, everything to interrupt
with the preaching. And it got

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to a point where it got to
the point where it was just him,

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and one day the government came in
knocking on the door and took his father

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to jail, and he was in
jail for six months. I only mentioned

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this. It's simply because you throw
in the word social and then justice,

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it kind of walks that fine line
of social Lizone, And you really have

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to be careful because guilty. Just
like miss Knighton, I'm going to school

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and when I see certain things,
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now that I'm getting my master's in
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into finding out what I'm talking about. But I find it very interesting that

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in my research I found that social
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view that everyone deserves equal economic,
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or social and opportunities. You know, it's interesting that you know, yes,

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we all need to be treated fairly, and to me, that's key

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to be treated fairly. But when
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now is when we're beginning to muddy
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I deserve something, then i'm then
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whether you deserve it or not.
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into those lines of well do you
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to be more unified. And and
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very challenging that when we're trying to
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now trying to get your way of
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at things to kind of interlock with
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best for one another, but we
as fallible human beings, we want to

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kind of get the edge. We
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to be able to to to have
better things or or look at things in

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a in a different perspective than other
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it's a matter of we can't speak
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going to offend somebody, whether it
be race, whether it be gender,

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whether it be culture, whether it
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whether we believe in God, whether
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believe in in creation, or whether
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there's just so much that gets intertwined
into all of that that if we say

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the wrong thing, now we're either
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homophobe or a xenophobe, and now
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it's a very fine Like I said, it's a very fine line. And

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the more I kept reading these interpretations, the more I started looking at this

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is still this type of thinking is
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Guatemala, I was with a gentleman
who is Cuban descent, and he told

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me that his wife had to go
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distributing three pounds of rice, and
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in a household. And we really
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want we all want to be equal, but not everybody is thinking equally,

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and to me, that that's where
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we're what we're striving for, what
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speaking to individuals, and it's and
it's not because I'm trying to sugarcoat it

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or I'm trying to be politically correct. I just think that today with the

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way society is and what society is
dictating, We've got four hosts, four

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a host and three other co hosts
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and as much as we want to
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a different version or a different understanding
that it's okay if we don't agree,

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but we have to agree agreeably,
we have to be nice about it.

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But unfortunately society is not doing that. Society is you're either on my side

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or you're the enemy. That's not
what it's about. And I didn't want

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to, you know, that's just
my take on Well, that's the student

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in him. Amen. Amen.
Well greatly, said Pastor Miguel. So

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when they're trying to explain I it
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things can be slanted. It depends
on what you're listening to, what

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you're watching, what you're experiencing.
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social justice or injustice is going with
the same thing, treating others the way

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you want to be treated, and
recognizing when you take faces off of things,

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religion and off of things, beliefs
off of thing, what does it

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really look like when you start to
feel And I think the fact that society

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see has things that make it difficult
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And so when you're talking about things
that it could be just as simple as

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I hate to go there, but
just trying to explain it black and white?

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What is the plant? You know, if things are happening to a

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particular person simply because the color of
the skin, or if you see something

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that say, wow, that's injustice, that that wasn't right and you kind

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of remove the color from it,
does it still seem unlike? You know,

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would it be any different if it's
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the and it's kind of graphic, but

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just kind of a twist on something
that I saw, and it was a

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show called The Time to Kill and
A Time to Kill had Samuel Jackson in

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it. And what stood out about
that particular movie. I don't want to

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give it away, but I kind
of have to. So but if you

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don't want to hear you know,
the way I'm going to close youre is

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to it. But it was how
he defended the attorney offended Simuel Jackson.

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He was trying to figure out,
how do I offend this person. You

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know, I'm of this particular race, but this person from that particular race.

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And this happened because of the injustice
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who was a minor. You know, the I don't care what age

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or race or whatever. It was
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or the humiliations of the degrading all
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did a picture, had people to
close, had the jury to close their

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eyes, and he gave the scenario
and he, you know, just kind

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of laid out what occurred and how
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he put the spin on it and
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spend because of the fact that people

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were thinking because it was a little
black child that it might not have made

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as much different as it was a
little white child. And so he ended

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up being acquitted of the crimes because
he actually killed the two defendants that did

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this to his daughter. Now was
it right? But I just go there

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because sometimes you have to kind of
think about that, you know, if

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that was if we was able to
get off with that simply because changing the

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faith of what the little girl looked
like. That's what we're talking about justice

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or injustice now with Samuel right for
doing it. No, he probably wasn't,

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but we have to be human.
What would we have done? You

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know, you're talking about a vulnerable
little girl who has done this by grown

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men, no matter what the color
was. And so, and I think

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a lot of times because we are
fix thing when you set out an application.

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He didn't want you to put your
race down. We want you to

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put your aid down. You know, they they the classify you as Latino

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or non Latino. So society has
done that the kind of I think the

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separators. What difference does it make
if you are male, female, black,

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non you know Latino knowledge. It's
a lot of questions and these are

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the things we were asking as far
as service providers for demographics, and so

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you start placing labels on folks because
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Now, I got to the point
whence you can refuse to answer if

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you want to. So you know, when we're talking about those things,

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these are things that are already separating
folks into categories, age, groups,

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religion, you know, that type
of that type of scenario. So my

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thing is, I'm not sure of
how we could fix that. This is

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just something that I have observed,
and I've seen tape. The folks that

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were shot from and killed Mercus merciless
Mercus killed in justice, Yeah, killed

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and justly, and in regardless of
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So it depends on what side that
you're looking on, what you can

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identify with. With me being of
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I can kind of depict certain things
based on things that I knew growing up

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because I'm of that error right out
of the Civil rights era, and so

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I remember certain things said to done
to recall done to you know, these

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types of things. And I think
if we just try to treat people the

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way we want to be treated.
It will take a lot of this thing

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out, It would take a lot
of injustice out. And so that's what

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I try to do. I try
to live that way. If I don't

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want it done to me, why
would addition to anybody else? And just

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being mindful, empathetic to what people
are going through. If people are trying

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to do things I like to uplift
people, that's great. Whytn't consider this

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or just maybe just be a business
idea. I love to see people grow.

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Unfortunately everybody does not want to.
But I try to provide encouragement,

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motivation, uplifting where I hate to
tell people tear people down? What is

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that doing? What am I getting
out of that? That's not showing who

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they are showing who I am.
And that's just my take on it.

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Thank you, miss Naighton from your
age perspective, and you know you will

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have different things that you are tolerating
and going through and enduring and stuff.

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What's your take on some of this? What are you thinking? I'll say,

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I remember a time when I think
my sophomore year in college, I

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had an African American class and a
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We didn't understand why there were other
races taking the class, but it came

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to a point where I had to, you know, basically explain, you

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know, other people want to different
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of things that we've gone through.
And of course sometimes those type of

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classes are a requirement to move forward
within your major and stuff like that.

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But it was always a debate to
why we'll debate about different documentaries of slavery,

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different things with races that went on, and like you know, always

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be an argument of why they have
an opinion on the things that we went

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through. And I would say for
people within my age group were very opinionated,

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very honest. We're young, so
we don't fully we know everything to

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a certain extent, but as our
mothers or parents or grandparents, they went

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through a different thing than we have
and we're just seeing it from of course

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an outside view because we didn't deal
with that. So I feel like a

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lot plays a role with social media
as well, with the debating, because

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now I understand why my college classes
said, you know, don't talk about

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religion. They have a whole list
in the syllabus, don't talk about religion,

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don't talk about race, don't go
against each other, no arguing,

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et cetera, et cetera, especially
in discussion boards. And I'm like,

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you know, it's making more sense
now because I mean with social injustice,

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I feel like that we will never
be equal. Of course, nothing will

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never be equal. Like people have
to face that fact because I mean,

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of course they'll never be normal no
more as well. And yeah, I

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just feel like within my age group, we don't we want to be on

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an argument of side of things rather
than let's look at the issue and let's

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solve the issue. We just want
to fight about it and not come to

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a common ground. But we're young, so really, but no, I

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mean people that's younger than me,
people that's my age. You know,

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some people are very argumented everybody.
And I feel like social media plays a

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huge role because you have people with
different lifestyles. Of course, like they

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were saying, like people wanted to
be people because they're a higher standard,

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especially with finances and stuff like when
you see somebody else doing better, they

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want to be like that person and
stuff like that, and that starts a

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whole argument. And then of course
they have discussions on social media and everybody

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sees it, so everybody has an
opinion, so I feel like, yeah,

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there will never be equality for real, and yeah, I don't know

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how it will even solve that for
real. I mean being young again with

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jealousy, hating. Nobody wants to
see anybody win, especially being young.

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They don't want to see especially if
you went to school with this individual.

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Oh we were just in the same
grade, we did the same thing out

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of our ball. But now you're
bigger than me. It's a problem now,

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and nobody wants to see you prosper. They want you to be bottom

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of a barrel wherever they are.
I don't want to say that they want,

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but I'm just saying wherever they are, that's where they want to see

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you. Nobody wants to see anybody
prosper, and it's a lot of hate,

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and especially throughout my age group.
Like, I don't understand it,

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because you can get there if you
want to, if you work towards it,

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you could get to where you want
to be. I feel like anybody

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around my age should want to envision
themselves at a higher standard than they are,

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but nobody wants to see that.
They don't understand. I don't understand

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it, but well, it's interesting
too because you know, and again we

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think of social injustice and those words. I when I have to fill out

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a form for the show for iHeart
Radio as well, and I have to

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talk about the different words that you
know, folks, can you know,

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search and find this podcast, and
so I put freedom in inequality, equality,

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you know, beautiful said thank you, country see thank you. But

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then I mean, then there is
not only the race, but there is

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you know, disability, those who
don't look right. And even in the

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MPTE world, now there's limb loss
and limb difference. And here we go,

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and we've got a thread of communication
and everybody's got different issues. Everybody's

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got different issues, and you try
to put something happy out there, and

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then there's always somebody wants to come
back and say, no, you shouldn't

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do this and we shouldn't do that. And I'm like, wait a minute.

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This was created so we can have
a you know, a former communication.

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But you you don't have to tear
me down just because I'm okay,

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I'm working through this and I'm trying
to help somebody. So I would if

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somebody said responded to something I was. For instance, they're looking for their

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next conference for this year a hotel. They're gonna head to Atlanta. They

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were here last summer. They're heading
to Atlanta. So I suggested, now

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make sure that the hotel is not
under renovation like the hotel here was,

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because when I came through the side
door there was panels missing and there was

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a scaffold there. I cannot run. I'm missing toes so I cannot run,

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and what if something fell? I
mean, it was a way for

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me to walk, and I mean
a way distance for me to walk to

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try to get to the conference area. Then the escalator went out in midday.

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All of us try to get on
the elevator. We can't take the

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stairs, so you know, so
the esk and so I'm asking, did

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anybody tell the people, the hotel
folks, the escalators out. We're here

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for y'all here for four days.
I just I get to come in and

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visit and I get to leave.
Y'all got to stay here and get it

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back and forth. So and I
brought that up because now that i'm I

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mean, I was once the advocate
for disabled folks and folks who have challenges

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and things like that, now become
one of them. And the way people

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look at you and treat you,
it's incredible. They have good intentions,

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some of them, but then others
they're looking at you. And then I

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wear a mask when I leave my
house, I wear a mask so I

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can be at the store and we
can be in the store to shop it.

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And somebody does something kind of silly
and I respond to whatever, and

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they look at me like, oh
my goodness, she sounds intelligent. But

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to look at me, you can
see you feel that I'm disabled, you

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know, and I have challenges.
But when I start talking, people are

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like and they stopped. Literally,
I kid you not. They stop and

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look at me like, really,
you know. So I think I can

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kind of agree that I don't feel
that. I don't feel that God really

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wants us. His focus is not
only equality. Focus is on the quality

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of life that you're living for him, I think. And there's a some

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there's several questions we can't even we'll
never get the answers to until we get

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ready to cross over. And by
the time, like I said, we

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going to heaven. I'm going for
the choir stand. If I could pass

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Peter, I'm good. I'm in
that. Get me to the quiet.

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The first sopranos please, even though
some people don't think I can sing the

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first soprano. No, but anyway, because I'm not gonna want to ask

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God then. But I think there's
some questions that we have out here that

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we will not get answered on this
side of heaven. But it's what you

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make the life that you're charged to
do, you know, and just say

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this and then pastor you can come
on in. We've had this issue since

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the beginning of time. Yeah,
we've had this since you know, Adam

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and Eve. You know, we've
had this issue. Cultures, everybody trying

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to one up, brothers killing each
other, you know, all kinds of

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families being divided, single family households. This is nothing new. What we're

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living cast systems, social class systems, the government. The people begged God,

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they begged that we need a leader, We need somebody we can see.

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God had been blessing them, brought
them out and they said, okay,

448
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you know, and God said,
okay, you sure you want somebody

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like you telling you what to do? You're sure of that? And then

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I believe it was Samuel Thaw that
was chosen and God I said, don't,

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don't, don't bring this back to
me. And that's where government leadership

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all of that rolled out, so
you all could do your own study on

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that. But this, up until
that moment, people dependent on God and

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God alone. But yes, they
murmured, they complained, they didn't they

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didn't understand things. They didn't they
didn't appreciate the giftings. They didn't they

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didn't want. Now this is nothing
new, guys. If you've studied your

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word in the least, just go
through Genesis to Revelation. It takes you

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a year, got to read four
chapters a day. But okay, but

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you know, if you will,
you see this. It's already biblically done.

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And we're here today. That's and, that's and and and you know,

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you can look at John four,
the woman at the well. She

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was a Samaritan and the Jews would
walk away around Samaria so they can get

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to Jerusalem because they didn't want to
cut between Samaria. And and it's so

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interesting how all of this has been
played out over two thousand years ago and

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today we're like, oh, this
is new. The only thing new is

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that humans put titles to it.
And you know, you can dress a

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peg still pay and and and and
ultimately we got to be able to understand

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that. You know, Jesus.
Jesus made that very clear. I didn't

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come to bring peace, you know
I will. I will cause division because

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you followed me. So it really
comes to ask the question, am I

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doing it for me? Or am
I doing it for the kingdom? And

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if you're doing it for the kingdom, you take the me out of the

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equation because now you're serving higher God, You're serving higher being, and we

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are are our God's servant. So
if we're going to be I mean,

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if you read Paul's letters, what
does he say, I am a slave

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for God. Now, back then, slavery was a little had a different

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connotation because the masters took care of
the slaves. Unfortunately, man perverted that

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and really made things ugly because if
we remember, according to the Old Testament,

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when the slaves were getting ready to
celebrate their seventh year, they were

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free, they can go, but
some of the slaves said, I'm not

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leaving this, I want to stay
here. Put a hole in my ear.

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I belonged to you, And that
was the way it was back then.

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But because man's perversion, that's where
it all got really messed up.

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So it's interesting. I just saw
a miss tray. You brought up a

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movie and you made my wheels a
spin. And it was from the movie

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that chosen. It was a scene
where Matthew was talking to Jesus after Jesus

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told Simon his new name was Peter
and what it meant, and Matthew was

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upset because he got promoted, considering
that Peter was treating Matthew wrongfully because Matthew

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was a tax collector and he didn't
think that Peter deserved to be promoted and

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his he said, I haven't done
anything wrong to him, and then Jesus

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asked him, maybe it's not what
you're doing to him now, but what

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did you do prior to make Peter
feel the way you did? And that's

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what we failed to do. We
failed to look at what we've done to

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cause someone to react the way that
they're reacting. And that's where accountability comes

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in. And in today's society,
that's one word that I think everybody has

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00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:34.320
deleted from their vocabulary, accountability,
because it's always someone else's fault, not

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my fault. It was my parents
that caused this, or it was my

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00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:43.440
grandparents that and we can keep going
down through the generational curves, and we

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can't say I'm guilty for making that
person feel this way about me, or

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feel this way about my culture or
my race. And that's where is an

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opportunity for us to change that.
Now, are we going to change the

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entire world? No, But if
we change one, two, or even

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maybe three, we're starting to make
some kind of headway. But we just

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need more people to think that way. We need more people to think with

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an open mind. How can I
make a difference in that person's life without

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expecting something in return, Because that's
what it's all about. And then you

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said two things. We talk about
perversion and this is and I've been in

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this all week long, looking at
what God intended, what God set forth,

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what God laid out for us,
and how man has come along and

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perverted nearly everything that was beautiful and
wonderful in God's eyes. That's the first

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thing. And number two, accountability. What are you supposed to be doing?

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How are you you make the difference? I don't care if it's just

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fine people you're supposed to touch,
and maybe five people a week, five

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00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:07.480
people a month, just to say
an encouraging word. You go to a

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regular shopping market or store whatever,
or a restaurant, and the employees know

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you by face. Maybe you're supposed
to go there on and when you do,

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00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:22.880
you smile, you say hello,
you tip the people, don't give

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00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:28.519
them a hard time. What are
you supposed to be doing? And we've

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00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:32.679
talked about this on the show forever, what's your calling? I still have

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people calling me saying I don't know
what my calling. I don't know what

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I'm supposed to do. I said, well, what makes you mad?

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And if you could change it,
you would? I said, stay right

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there. What gets you upset?
What could take you from zero to one

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00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:52.400
hundred? But you and you've got
a solution for it. But you're looking,

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oh, I don't have the money, I don't have the influence.

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Yes you do. All you have
to do is speak. You're on social

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00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:07.840
medium, put your point out there, you know. So it's it's it's

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people. It's not pretty out here. I know, we got four more

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minutes and we'll let everybody do a
closing. But it's about it's taking responsibility

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in your hands. What are you
supposed to do? What's what? What

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is it? Who? Who's your
audience? That's that's that's the key to

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00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:30.440
being an inspirational, motivational speaker.
Who's your audience? You got to know

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00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:34.960
that. Don't just go and accept, you know, opportunities or whatever.

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00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:37.360
Who's my audience. Well, these
are that kind of a mixed group,

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you know, They're they're this,
they're that. Oh okay, I've done,

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I've asked. I've been asked to
do the invocation on government grounds.

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No one has ever said to me. Now, you know you can't mention

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God, right, no one's ever
meant. But I got it in my

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00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:55.079
mind, and I'm like, Lord, you want me to do this because

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you know every second word is you, you know. And God said,

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yeah, go ahead, and sure
enough, let's buy our heads. We

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just thank you, we praise you, we give you glory, never mentioned

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God, never mentioned Heaven, did
it, pray it done. Couldn't even

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00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:16.360
eat my food with people coming to
my table saying we know what you're reanting,

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00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:22.599
we know who you were talking about, and thank you. Sometimes you

546
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:28.440
just blow things up because of your
fear and we're gonna talk about that another

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time. Your anxiety, your worriation. Just gonna do what God tells you

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to do. Anybody have anything else? We only have two more minutes.

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I'll just say overall with this discussion, I feel like people took, you

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know, the freedom of speech to
a whole other movement. And I feel

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like if you cannot come to a
common ground with somebody else's pin, don't

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00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:58.559
speak at all. Not saying withhold
your pin or anything like that. But

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00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:02.559
if it isn't nice or said in
a respectful way, it shouldn't be said

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at all. That's anybody else.
Trade. Look at trade, you know,

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00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:15.280
we look at you like, how
do you follow that? I mean,

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you know, I think that that's
a that's a great thing, you

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00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:28.760
know, And yeah, well I
go ahead past it. Yeah. I

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was gonna just simply say, wow, you bring hope. You bring hope,

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00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:37.079
Miss Nighting, you bring hope,
and and keep keep marching the way

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you're marching because you will make a
difference. And and one thing also as

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a pastor, I tell everyone you
don't need a pulpit. Your pulpit is

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the streets. And if you're not
sure what you're calling is here, let

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me help you go make disciples,
teach the word, spread the good news.

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Start with that. Then the spirit
will review will guide you to your

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next step. Amen, and on
that note, we're gonna see you next

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week, same time, same station. Thank you Lord, Thank you guys. By