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FOURCY Radio. Well, good evening, good evening, good evening, and

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welcome to another exciting segment of Setting
It Straight with Miss Gray and my fabulous

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co host. How are you guys
doing, Pastor mcguil is, way back,

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all the way back from across the
Raging Seas and have landed very successfully.

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How are you, sir? Doing
very well, doing very well,

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tired, but very well. Amen. Amen, Amen, it's an incredible

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go ahead. I'm sorry, I'm
all right. It's just an incredible,

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incredible experience and really watching a lot
of people become and doing the work of

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the Lord. So it was really
incredible event and it's important, but that

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that's a great feeling it was.
It was a while, but when since

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I had been in my office and
working with the courts and everything, and

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then it dawned on me one day
and I just couldn't move out of my

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chair that I watched people change in
front of me. They were coming for

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a class, they were court ordered
for a class. But the Lord always

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will is pretty intervened and to set
them straight, you know, as best

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as he. You know they would
want to and nobody ever expects to be

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changed. They already come in with
their speculations. They come to church and

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they're like, well, you know, I gotta come to church because it's

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Thursday night, it's Sunday. And
but when you know, there were there

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were many who came in and you
know what, let me open with prayer.

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I'm so sorry, Papa God.
We just thank you, we praise

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you, we give you glory.
Please, Lord forgive me for that.

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I'm so sorry. I just got
caught up and hearing the wonderful stories and

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testimonies that we're going to hear even
the more. Papa God, as you

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know, this is you, this
is your program, this is your opportunity

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to speak to your people. We
stand behind the cross, We watch,

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we wait, we listen, we
activate, you deploy us, we go

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do what you tell us to do. Be with us tonight, guide us

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ever so careful that we love you. We forever give you the praise,

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glory and honor in Jesus name.
Amen and Amen. Y'all got to call

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me out on that real quick,
because you know I can out talk anybody.

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Remember that now I try to tell
y'all. But anyway, you know,

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I just get really excited about that, and we're gonna make sure that

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we give pastor time to talk about
that, you know, probably in May,

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because we're pretty we only have one
more Monday, one more Monday,

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and we're out of April and we're
right into May. We rolled right into

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May. So anyway, Trey,
how you doing you? Everything's well,

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Everything is well on this end.
Thank you for asking, how about you?

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Really good? Been an emotional week
for me, but we'll talk about

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that another time. Very emotional,
just I awakening within myself and confronting myself

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and where where do I go from
here? Type of thing. So,

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but anyway, I know everybody is
so eager and happy tonight. We have

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a distinguished guest and I am just
so honored that he agreed to come on

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the show. And it just happened
to be you know, national you know,

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uh uh, you know, world
book and copyright day and week and

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months. I like to make it
into the month. I don't care about

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all that, but and the importance
of books and things like that. So

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why not have a bookstore, a
Christian bookstore owner out there to talk about

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that and and and to see the
importance that that books are still important.

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People are still wanting a hard I
don't my hardcover in their hand to read,

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and things like that. But I'm
not gonna take too much, you

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remember, please help me. Welcome
mister Kevin Adams, Kevin, come on

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in. Thank you great with you
tonight. Thank you so much. And

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you know I can't do you know, I was very blessed to be able

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to have my first book signing at
your store. It was really nice.

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I was in a nice little you
know, little area, uh, people

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coming and going and see me and
things like that, and and it was

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I think the main thing I really
loved about it was we could talk about

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God openly. Nobody said anything.
Everybody they knew what to expect. They

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knew. I mean, you know
they're coming into a holy place, and

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it was so nice to be able
to do that. So Kevin, I'm

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gonna be quiet now, I'm gonna
turn things over to you. And we

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do have a live audience every night. They will come on and let us

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know who's joined us. So then
if they have any questions, I'll be

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watching out for that and I'll bring
it back around. But please talk about

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how you and why is it was
it always childhood dream to own a bookstore

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or how was your relationship with books
and you know and all this and what

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the Lord has done for you.
Please thank you, yes, thank you,

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thank you so much for having me
tonight. I've always loved books.

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When I was growing up, my
mom we really didn't have a lot of

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TV time. She didn't really let
us, so we read books. And

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yeah, we went to the library. I read. I remember one summer

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I read two hundred and some odd
books, and so I was just a

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reader. I loved books, every
one of us. I don't know.

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It was kind of like a write
of passage when we each got our own

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bookshelf and then we would begin filling
our bookshelf. And there was there was

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six kids in the house, so
you know, we all still had our

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own bookshelf. But a bookstore really
wasn't a childhood dream. I guess I

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became a believer when I was in
college, and so I was actually studying

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criminal justice. I was planning on
going to law enforcement, had desired and

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dreamed of being an FBI agent and
investigating serial killers and stuff like that.

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Yeah, So then freshman in college, I became a Christian. A friend

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of mine took me to a church
where I just heard the gospel explained clearly

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and my need for salvation and Jesus
Christ, and that I really wasn't as

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good as I thought I might have
been. And so that, you know,

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changed things. And a few years
later I went to Bible College,

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and then I felt the Lord calling
me to seminary and pastoring, and I

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actually, I think, let's say
nineteen ninety seven is when I had my

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first bookstore, if you could call
it that. It was a legit legal

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bookstore in name, but I didn't
have a place. I just kind of

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sold books out of my house,
mainly to other college students at the seminary.

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And then I really I bought more
books than I sold, but I

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was in Missouri for about twelve years. In two thousand and five, I

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moved to Orlando. I was hoping
to church plant, but that hadn't worked

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out. So I came down to
Orlando and started teaching Bible in the Christian

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school. And then a few years
later I did get involved with the church

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plant, and then I church planted
myself for about seven years. And then

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I helped another church plant for six
or seven years. And in twenty let's

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say seventeen, Family Christian closed all
their stores. They went bankrupt for the

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second time. Most people don't know
they'd already been bankrupt once before, but

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this time they closed all their couple
hundred stores. And I was in a

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transition period, and so I looked
at my wife and I said, Honey,

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what do you think about this?
We should pray about this. But

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this was a very small window here. You can't wait too long after they

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closed, because you know it wouldn't
be an opportune time. So anyway,

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within two months after them closing in
twenty seventeen, we opened up FIT Books

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and the name fit as acro actually
an acronym freedom in truth from John eight

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thirty two. You should know the
truth and the truth shall set you free.

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That was one of the verses on
in my Christian life that just just

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really stuck with me. It's a
life first, if you would call it

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that, and I'm I'm a truth
seeker, so you know, it goes

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with the reading, it goes with
the research. I've always been a researcher,

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always been analytical. So we toyed
around for a little bit with coming

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up with a different name, because
by twenty seventeen, fit I figured would

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be much more connected to fitness because
of the fitness craze. But after a

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couple of weeks of toying around and
not finding another name that also would have

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you know, website domains available,
et cetera, all these different pieces that

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you kind of need for a business
to fit together, and I just went

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back to it and said, you
know, the Lord put this on your

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heart twenty years ago. It was
twenty years from nineteen ninety seven to twenty

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seventeen. You know, he put
this on your heart. He gave you

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the name and everything, and it
doesn't matter what you call it, there's

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gonna be a hurdle. So I
decided, all right, we're just gonna

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go with this, and so fit
books. Twenty seventeen we opened at the

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old Family Christian there by the uh
west Oke Small and there'll be seven years

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in August. Yeah, well congratulations
to that. Oh my god, Kevin,

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you don't even look the age to
be talking about twenty seventeen in two

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thousand and this. You know,
like you just got out of high school.

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Man, twelve years over here and
twenty years over there, and what

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can the word? God has been
good to you. And I want to

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know what your fountain of youth is
because we got we have to talk.

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Okay, my God, look at
you, Look at you. You live,

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eat and sleep. This is awesome
and we just never know. It

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just goes it proves again. Hey, country, see I saw you earlier.

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You know, we don't. We
can't say what God has for us.

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We have ideas, and it's okay
to have ideas. It's okay,

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you know you work towards that.
What you at the seminary, y'all are

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deep. You're pastor y'all going to
you know, a seminary school. There

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ain't nothing to play with. He's
the big boys here. Now. You

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can't just quote a scripture around me. These guys. It's okay, because

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then look at you, like,
no, that's not quite fitness of the

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mind. Thank you, misty.
See there we go. See they get

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it. They get it, and
of course fitness and you know that faith

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and truth and this is what we've
always needed. The people, the world

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needs this. And I was talking
to my neighbor earlier and he confirmed that

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he know, miss Gray, I'm
reading my word every day every morning,

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four o'clock in the morning. While
you're sleeping. I am studying, you

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know, I'm praying more. And
I asked God for some things that he's

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turning in around. He's giving me
my answers. I said, okay,

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I'm from the outside. I couldn't
tell. From the outside, I couldn't

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tell. And I want to be
nosy, but I'm gonna look through my

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camera and wonder, okay, why
is the garage still up? You know?

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And he thanked me for that,
He said, I thank you for

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that, because that's what we grew
up with, you know. But to

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know and to hear people are still
and I was. I gave him some

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prophetic updates and things like that because
it's been a while since we spoke.

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But I told him, I said, you know, please make sure whatever

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you're doing, double it up.
Now. If you're reading one chapter a

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day, double it up. As
you know, if you're praying at least

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twice a day, you're gonna double
that up. You know, we have

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to be in that. But anyway, Kevin, I want to get back

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with you. I'm just amazed.
You saw my facial expressions like what what?

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Wow? You know there's a pastor
man here that he knows scripture.

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You can't just go in there and
say, oh, I'm trying to find

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a book. You know. No, he's gonna narrow you down. So

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tell us some people need to read
more. You write, Mickey, Hey,

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Mickey, how are you? Yes? Yes, And the books are

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still sticking around. Books are still
relevant. Books are still relevant, and

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people are writing books and people,
you know, having the courage to write

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books and to talk about some deep
things that they've gone through, and the

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best way to do it is put
it in a book. Because not everybody's

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gonna be invited to speak anywhere.
Not everybody's gonna have a pulpit, not

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everybody's gonna have a classroom. I'm
a former college professor. Now everybody's gonna

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have that. And you can't just
get on the corners. Now. You

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got to have a permit. And
I'm like, you know, you just

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get set up, stop when you
get ready. You got to have a

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permit. So why not put it
in a book. I'm gonna get some

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more history on books. But anyway, Kevin, go ahead and just share

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with the audience. They are wide
awake right now. Awesome. Yeah,

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so you know, we've had quite
a journey and but God has really just

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been faithful and opened the doors necessary. I mean, it really was a

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leap of faith. We started the
store with I don't know, we put

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one hundred and ten thousand dollars on
credit cards. So don't tell Dave Ramsey,

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but you know, when you start
out a business, no one really

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wants to give you any money.
So we had, you know, good

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credit because I've been you know,
faithful and a good steward, and just

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you had that. And so even
that's an example of how, unbeknownst to

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us, an act of preparation over
the years. You know, I didn't

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get married till I was late later
in life. I was single for a

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long time, and so I built
up a lot of credit and that's how

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we were able to open the store, and just like anybody else that does

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anything, you know, we didn't
do everything perfectly, you know, all

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sorts of errors that we made,
but we learned from them and we've continued

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to grow store. And you know, our mission really is equipping the church

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and engaging the community. And so
that literally has always been even when I

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was in church ministry and in Christian
school ministry, it was about equipping people,

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like that's what we do, like
that that's what pastors do. So

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I've over the years tried to evaluate
myself and my giftings, and I've repeatedly

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come back to the idea that God
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I am helping them, pointing them
to resources, training. It comes in

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different ways, but it's always like
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store, we really don't just sell
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know, we have built relationships with
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with pastors and different people and ministers, and you know, we have a

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few of them that will come in
and you know, they just come in

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to pick my brain, to chat
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you know, there's a couple of
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text and they just come in and
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about it in different things, or
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recommendation or things like that. And
honestly, through the bookstore, I have

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met and been able to network,
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term, more more people in ministry, more churches in Orlando than I ever

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would have being in a local church
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the whole cross section of all types
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come through the doors. And so
that's been really cool for us, and

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you know, trying to encourage and
equip them wherever we can and just continue

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to help them do what God's calling
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to make the name of Jesus famous. Yeah. So yes, a country

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see said you sound so compassionate.
What you do is sound so compassionate.

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children to walk across each other's path. Now, once upon a time you

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bump into somebody's and you say,
oh, hey, God, bless you,

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God bless you. You know,
but now people stop to talk a

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little bit, to share a little
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I'm not asking folks where their faith
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word, we speak the word and
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on. You know, times are
changing. As I told about the other

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day, we're closer to the end
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understand where you are. People are
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fact that there are people who still
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what, what's the meaning behind their
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are not young people I'm talking about
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in age that have you know,
done their root the traditional things, but

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they've never stopped to listen for God
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do have for you to do.
You've asked me this. It don't look

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like what you wanted it to look
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you to do. Do you find
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Kevin that they'll come in for a
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where they're inquiring or still want to
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a little bit over the years,
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know, no matter who they are, depending on how willing they are to

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talk or how open they are,
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them in their journey with Christ.
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probably don't know Christ sometimes. You
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out when you're talking with people sometimes
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know Christ, I don't think,
and so you know, I we're encouraging

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them. You know, oh you
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what we want. So you know, get them into the word. Get

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something you can read, you can
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as you're reading it. Or maybe
they're just starting out, so you know,

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they need a little help on how
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works, and so you know,
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share the gospel. That's not really
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people that through well i'll just call
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in the store. At the same
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an hour and a half talking,
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moved to the parking lot for another
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really cool the type of things that
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to be there and keep that place
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place. That location has been a
Christian bookstore for I believe more than twenty

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years. I don't know the exact
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was Family Christian and I think before
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for people to go to get equipped, refreshed, meet with people. And

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so, you know, that's pretty
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we all we all miss the mark
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to be discerning and to listen to
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know, my flesh. Depending on
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you know, or what they're saying
or asking like I said, I don't

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always get it right. Sometimes,
you know, I want to give truth

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and it's uh becomes a little a
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depends on how probably they and myself
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spirit or not at the moment.
But those are all different types of conversations

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that you know, we encounter at
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Trey, go ahead. So what
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I was listening to Alicia, and
I think, you know, early on

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in my walk of faith, how
do some people maybe are not understanding or

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know when God is speaking to them? How do you know it's actually God?

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You know? How can you how
can you separate what your internal thoughts

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may be versus what God might be
telling you to do? And I think

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that might be where some people are
stuck. When you said they're not listening

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to God, maybe they're not knowing
what to listen for or how they know?

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How do they know God was speaking
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is your walker purpose? Okay,
Kevin? And then Pastor Miguel, there

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you go, that's a great question. I can remember in the first couple

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of years that I was a Christian
and a similar type of question was asked

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of the pastor the church I was
at uh and his answer was, you

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just know that you know that you
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one half of the answer. But
the other half is that I think you

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know, you know, Jesus talked
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that they know his voice. And
I think that the more time you spend

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in the Word and with God,
the more you're able to discern where this

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is coming from. You know.
Sometimes you know, I taught high school

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Bible for a long time and ministry
before that, and sometimes students, you

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know, have the question like,
well, that's not in the Bible,

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so how do you know that that's
that's wrong or something like that, And

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there's just this discernment that comes as
you have a relationship with God and as

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you understand the Word of God,
which is why it's so important to be

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in the Word. That's like,
that's like the bedrock foundation. So the

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more you understand the Word, like
just the more obvious certain things are that

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it just doesn't line up with the
character of God. This just isn't part

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of advancing the kingdom. This,
this is actually the opposite. It's deteriorating

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it. It's it's pulling people away, it's it's messing up what God is

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actually trying to move forward. And
so I think a lot of it is

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uh growth, spiritual growth from spiritual
disciplines pastor have find the on mute button

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there, Kevin, You're absolutely right. One of the things that my wife

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and I and what we're telling everyone
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that question asked, is how's your
relationship with Christ? You know, it's

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very easy to read the Bible,
but you know it's very easy to say,

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oh, I read the Bible and
I spend fifteen minutes every day.

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So my question would be, is
when you met your your spouse, when

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you met your significant other, did
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person? And naturally the answer is
no, I spent more. So that's

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where you start going. So you
want to know about God, you want

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to know about Christ, and you're
only spending fifteen minutes. You know,

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you're expecting God to do all the
work, and you're going to do fifteen

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minutes. It doesn't equate. So
you know, that's where you really got

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to develop the relationship. It's it's
a plan. Kevin. You used a

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great word, discipline that that in
itself is absolutely key. It's essential.

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After a long trip, I get
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three point fifty five in the morning, and I'm like, oh, Holy

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Spirit, really I'm tired, But
I had to. I got up because

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there was a word that needed to
be delivered. And that relationship that gets

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developed is what's strengthens and trains your
ear to hear when the Spirit is talking

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to you. Another keyword that Kevin
talked about was equipment. I agree with

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Kevin so much because if you look
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we have the teachers, we have
the pastors, we've got the apostles,

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we've got the prophets and the evangelists, and these are people that have the

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spirits speak to them, and then
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it's not just the select few.
Because we may not be pastors, we

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may not be evangelists, we may
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that we went and walked through the
fire with Christ. Now we become teachers

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to those who are going through that. And to me, that is so

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essential that we just can't walk around
saying, well what direction do I take?

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If you have a testimony, Now
you can teach others what you experience,

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and that is so essential because that
gives you a start. And the

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more you're involved, the more you're
delved it. You're in the word.

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As I once told my wife when
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I know? The first thing I
say is God's voice? It does not

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sound like Darth Vader with that booming
sound. Okay, God will speak to

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you, and he will speak to
you in such a loving, compassionate,

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caring way that your spirit moves in
such a way that you know that God

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has spoken to you. Sorry,
sorry about that country. See, but

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let me go back to mysty because
she's like, you know, how do

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we know what our plan is for
being on earth? Well, you go

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back and in your prayers. What
I used to tell people was what is

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it that you burned with passion?
Over? Who's the target population? What

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subject matter? For me? Social
work? I was raised by an older

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family. We had five generations one
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my heart. I just happened to
go by way of mental health and I

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became a social worker and my case
lord, I was very blessed. I

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could have an older you know,
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that's They're always still my heart,
even though I've done many other things over

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the years, but they're still in
my heart. My passion is to speak

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for those who are voiceless, to
teach your rights, to know that you

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have rights no matter what you're told. You know, and I love change,

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So I'm going to teach on change
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know, So you know you tray, you have a passion for people.

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Misty, I'm not sure what your
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What makes you? What could get
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What issue? What is it?
Start there? Start right there? Why

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am I getting mad about this?
Why am I getting so upset about?

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Why does this make me want to
cry? Start right there? Then I

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would suggest you go to the word. Now. The word does not say

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read me. It says to study, to show yourself a proof, and

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studying means having a piece of paper
and having a notebook, and having a

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pin and having your highlighters, and
you're sitting down and you go, what

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if you didn't have a money to
follow that? What you thought you were

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here to do? Miss say,
I'll get back to that. Hang on,

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because sometimes it don't take money.
We think it's money, we think

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it think it just takes sponsorship.
It takes sponsorship. Kevin knows enough about

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me right now. I'm not gonna
speak for him, but he knows enough

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about me right now. Okay.
Ms Gray is a social worker. That

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means she knows community stuff. Now, he knows more community than I do

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because he's been at it in a
different angle. But if he has a

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question, you know, I wonder
if she knows about writing grams. I

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wonder if she knows about nonprofit stuff. Let me give her a call.

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That's all it takes because I can
say, oh, I could get you

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three sponsors right now that love books
and have admiration of books that will work

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with you. So what is a
passion that burns in you that you can

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you could do? Guys, remember
last November you participated in feeding three people

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randomly, We fed three people.
We've fed over fifty some people in three

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days. From here to Louisiana to
Texas, everywhere you know out there,

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just because you just want to be
a part of that. And remember how

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you felt when you are reported the
following week, how y'all felt like God,

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I felt just so different. It
changed your life. That made a

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big thank you country. Yeah.
But just doing those steps and knowing that

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voice. There was a time I'm
gonna say this real quick, there was

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a time that I was like,
God, I'm hearing six voices, one

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including my own, And I said, Okay, you know what. That's

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it. Now, this is me
going extreme. I'm not going to church

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anymore. I'm not praying. I'm
not studying the word until you let me

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know which voice is yours. God, I'm not doing another thing. I'm

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not moving. It opened my eyes
to more things. Thank you, Missy.

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Yes, I'm not moving until you
tell me which is your voice.

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I cannot afford to lead somebody astray. I cannot afford to be in this

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tunnel and I don't know which is
your voice, So I'm not doing anything

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now. I went extreme. Guys. I would not recommend that you do

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this in owe, please do not
do that, but I did because I

411
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had had enough. I want to
know his voice. I've studied his word

412
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four years in a row. I
read the Bible every year, from Genesis

413
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to Revelation. I've got notes to
prove it, notebooks to prove it.

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But I still didn't know his what
sure? What was his voice? The

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Holy Spirit's voice, Jesus's voice,
your presence. But you'll have to sacrifice

416
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that time to get in a place
of quietness, get your word, get

417
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ready and go. And I had
to schedule reading, studying the word.

418
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I put it on my manual calendar, study, study, discipline, study.

419
00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:01.960
Okay, so the question go back. I'm in church Sunday. I

420
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go back, and I'm studying the
scriptures that the pastor went over. And

421
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guess what it really made good feelings? Thank you, Mickey. Guess what

422
00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:16.360
I got more revelation. You and
all of us could go and study one

423
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scripture, one verse, and I
tell you we'll have four different interpretations,

424
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four different revelations, and it's all
true. But it's just about trying and

425
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:30.840
moving ahead. MISSI. You talk
about how do you know what? You

426
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know what you're doing on earth?
That's what I would encourage you to do

427
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:36.800
in your quiet time. You got
you can't be around a lot of noise

428
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.679
because the devil loves noise. He
loves to distract. That way, your

429
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:44.400
phone will be ringing off the hook. You will hear from people you've never

430
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:46.719
even heard of. First you have
heard from it a while all of a

431
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:50.199
sudden, Hey, I was just
thinking about you, like I haven't talked

432
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to you for fifteen years. Now
I'm trying. Okay, wait a minute,

433
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you know, and then if you
get distracted, and we have to

434
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:00.000
be careful about that because we're getting
more just that ever the morning. That's

435
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:05.079
one of his ploys right now to
keep you looking over here. God is

436
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:08.519
here. He's want you looking over
here and getting all involved in that mess.

437
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:15.000
And it's affecting our bodies. It's
affecting our health because we're disconnecting from

438
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:21.159
the source of life. We're disconnected. So going back to money, it

439
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:24.280
doesn't take the money. If you
were to, if you wanted to do

440
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:30.760
something that was on your heart,
and we're asking right now, tell us

441
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:35.039
what you want to do. Tell
us what you want to do, and

442
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:40.280
I promise you, between the four
of us we could give you resources for

443
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free. We may even seen you
a seed offering you don't know, you

444
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:50.800
don't know. Just to prove that
God is real and whatever he's putting you,

445
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:52.760
he put it in you. This
is not something you just woke up

446
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:58.000
with a bright idea. He said, I knew you before your mother's womb,

447
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:02.440
knew you were coming. So he
downloaded his personality, his needs.

448
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:07.960
He everything we are today, Everything
we are today. Look at the jobs

449
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:15.400
we've had. They circle right back
and they overlap, they intersect, they

450
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:17.440
come across, and you can say, you know what, I was remembering

451
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:22.760
that back in Yeah, because this
have you thought about that this could work?

452
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:28.599
Amen, Trey, you we're gonna
say something. Yeah, I was

453
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gonna say the same thing. Kind
I wanted to ask the the the audience

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00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:36.920
member to put down what it was
that they were trying to do that they

455
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think they need the money for.
And then you know, but you already

456
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:50.639
put it out there, which is
good contract. Okay, Okay, go

457
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:58.760
ahead, mistery it is it is? He is it a concern? Go

458
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:02.159
ahead, Tree contiue what you're saying. Okay, Yeah, but I was

459
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:07.000
just saying, yeah. But I
know for me, when I feel passionate

460
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:12.079
about something, other people can see
it. When I'm talking about it.

461
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:15.519
I feel it's a different feeling than
if I'm talking about something that's dredging,

462
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:20.719
you know, that's pulling from me. But when I'm passionate about something,

463
00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:25.000
it's almost like I become to become
I start rambling, especially when it's working

464
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:30.679
with with people and helping people.
The voice of the voiceless, those people

465
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who tend to get overlooked or or
excluded or picked on or don't get the

466
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:43.199
resources because they don't have anyone to
help advocate for that. And then I

467
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:47.519
like seeing folks come together for a
common cause. That piece where you bring

468
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:52.400
your your your resource, I bring
and we have a resource fair or resource

469
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:58.199
or collaboration or partnership where everybody brings
a little that they have to share,

470
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:02.760
and then it becomes bigger and that
you're still able to service the populations.

471
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:08.000
You know, whether you know your
economic status, social status, your raised,

472
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:13.000
religion. You know, it's some
things that people need because everyone is

473
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:16.519
going through something. It's always someone
is always going through something. Grief and

474
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:23.679
loss that affects everyone. Unemployment,
underemployment, homelessness, risk of homelessness,

475
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:30.639
mental challenges, you know, emotional
challenges, anxiety, It plagues a lot

476
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:35.119
of people and where to turn for
that. And so you know to my

477
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:38.440
passions, domester of violence awareness,
mental health awareness. So those are the

478
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:43.679
two pieces that are in my heart, and I tried to find ways to

479
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:46.199
address that. When you said that, I felt that message was Okay,

480
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:52.239
great, I'm glad. I'm glad, mistery. I didn't I didn't have

481
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:55.360
money for school. I couldn't go
for a psychology degree. It's sweetie,

482
00:39:55.599 --> 00:40:00.800
there's psychology for dummies. Go get
the book, you know, order you

483
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:02.760
some books and read on psychology.
Okay. Now, if you want to

484
00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:07.599
go back to school and get you
an AA or AS degree major in psych

485
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:09.719
minor in sociology, you're good to
go. That's what you want to do.

486
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Go forward, you know what I'm
saying. Get you some faster money.

487
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:15.159
But this is like the pail brand
or whatever. I don't know where

488
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:17.639
your state is, misty, but
you know you could do that. But

489
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you could go read some books upon
psychology. I'll train you on psychology.

490
00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:24.039
That was my major in college.
I'll tell you. I mean, just

491
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:28.559
some of your coworkers. You probably
say, oh, I found you in

492
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.880
my book. You know, I'm
sorry anyway, because now also it might

493
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:37.039
be some different grants like grants where
to go. You can look and see

494
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:42.760
if you qualify for financial aid.
Some colleges and institutions have maybe some grant

495
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.800
money as if they're trying to target
a certain population. You can look into

496
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:50.519
that and started one class at a
time. You know, if you really

497
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want to learn psychology, and miss
Gray said something nice, she could teach

498
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you that. But if your passion
is to get to this degree, start

499
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small, because psychologist is a bigger
picture in itself. Volunteer some places so

500
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:08.960
you can understand get the understanding of
that in a hospital or something like that,

501
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:15.800
and just take a class at a
time and that will help. Don't

502
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:20.440
overload yourself, but just kind of
trickle and small and in that way you

503
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:22.840
can feel accomplished. And then later
on maybe there's some ways that you're able

504
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:27.039
to offset the price of going to
school and get you to getting your to

505
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:30.960
bring in psychology. And let me
say, there are many jobs out there

506
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:35.159
for a psychologists. Can a person
get a job in the field of self

507
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:42.960
tah Well, I doubt if you, I'm not sure what kind of You're

508
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:45.239
not going to be able to do
certain things, but you might be able

509
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:49.159
to come like an intake person.
Maybe they can train to do intake or

510
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:53.599
maybe they can train you to do
a tech in a facility. You might

511
00:41:53.639 --> 00:42:00.000
have to have some nursing classes or
basic nursing things. But look at your

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00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:04.239
mental health hospitals and kind of google
and see what it takes for that,

513
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:07.079
because people that work in the mental
health hospitals don't always have a psychology degree.

514
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:10.679
They're different things that they can do. But work and expound on that.

515
00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:15.360
If this is really your passion.
But if you're going into it,

516
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:19.039
you gotta put your big your big
girls stuff on, your big guys stuff

517
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:23.320
on, because it's a whole different
ball game. But it is needed.

518
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:28.079
And so I would tell anybody if
this is the field you want to do,

519
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:30.360
make sure it's the field you want
to do. Counseling. Okay,

520
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:35.840
that's the start. Go and volunteer, do something in there. See if

521
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:38.599
you can find a job so you
can be around it and understand it.

522
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:44.000
Not going to diagnose because I don't
do diagnosis. I work in mental health,

523
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:46.280
but I know where my boundary is, so I don't go through the

524
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:52.039
therapy piece. I do therapeutic interventions, which is something totally different. But

525
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:55.360
I don't go counsel. I refer
that to the therapist, but just going

526
00:42:55.400 --> 00:43:00.800
in so you'll know what to understand
because the symptoms are different. But that's

527
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:04.159
how I would get exposure to it. Find out if you can volunteer first

528
00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:07.480
or get a part time job in
it, I would do that. That's

529
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:12.360
what I would definitely suggest. Volunteer
first. Get your feet wet a little

530
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.960
bit. This is this is not
this is this is not what you see

531
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:20.000
on TV. You know, this
is not the twelve Monkey movie or the

532
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.280
Face twelve Faces of Eve and all
that that. No, it's it's very

533
00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:30.519
different. But you could start somewhere, misty, So go ahead, see

534
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:32.920
who where you could go. Volunteer. You're always looking for volunteers, and

535
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:38.440
they do training for you. That
the whole policy procedure. Training you're gonna

536
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:42.920
have in services that you'll have to
attend, and they do it for free

537
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.519
because that's where you're you're a volunteer, you're an employee. So you can

538
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:50.559
start there. Okay, I didn't
go all the way I I I by

539
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:52.639
the time I was in PSCH and
getting my you know, my undergrad and

540
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:58.599
double million minoring and gerontology and sociology. I realized I couldn't go any further

541
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:01.000
with psychology, and I went and
got my PhD. Well, I was

542
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:04.320
tired of school, but I heard
that, Hey, but I knew I

543
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:07.440
had to get a master's in something. And that's what I heard about the

544
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:09.079
field of social work. And let
me tell you, I put a plug

545
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:13.639
in it real quick. I feel
the social work is I'm the most well

546
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:17.280
rounded person now because there's nothing I
cannot do, I mean, with my

547
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:21.039
background and everything. So you may
want to take a look at that as

548
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:25.199
well. But right now you've got
to start small. Go volunteer. Start

549
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:30.159
looking at, you know, some
webinars, you know on YouTube. There's

550
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:35.199
plenty of them, there's plenty,
you know. Start there, you know,

551
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:37.559
and see if this is really what
you want to do, and if

552
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:40.440
it is okay, And you could
be counseling at a summer program. You

553
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:45.039
could be the after school counselor and
an after school program, you know,

554
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:49.360
I mean, and not that don't
require too many they don't require a license,

555
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:51.519
and that don't require too much of
a degree. But you got to

556
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:54.440
have experience, so volunteering, you
can put that right on there. Just

557
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:58.519
I just want to add one more
quick thing too, and if you volunteer

558
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:02.119
the place or work and a place, they might have tuition reimbursement or pay

559
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:05.960
for you to go to school.
So that would be a way as well

560
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:09.760
to get your feet wet because they're
always looking for folks to come and work

561
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:14.719
in the field, so it's a
wide open field. So if you're really

562
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:20.360
serious about doing something like that,
go volunteer work in there and see if

563
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:24.800
they have tuition reimbursement and you might
be able to start doing classes that way.

564
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:30.239
And if I may add, one
of the things that Trey said that

565
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:37.840
is absolutely key is when you volunteer, you really get to see the aspects

566
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:43.519
of everything that is involved, not
just what we think is involved, but

567
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:47.880
it really opens up the door to
really show you what you're doing. And

568
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:53.079
this is that piece that I was
talking about, is investing in the relationship.

569
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:57.639
You're saying, Lord, you put
this in my heart. This is

570
00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:00.920
the seed you put in me when
you knitted me in my mother's womb,

571
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:07.440
and now you're activating it. So
now God, God wants to see how

572
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:12.559
serious you are. You know,
are you willing to take those steps now

573
00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:19.440
so you can reap the harvest later. And that's that that that right there

574
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:23.800
is so essential that you're putting the
seed, you're you're putting yourself as the

575
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:30.239
seed. And then at that point
God provides what is required so you can

576
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:37.440
get to the next level. And
and that's where it really that's where the

577
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:44.400
relationship with Christ really comes in.
Because you know you're not going to get

578
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:46.360
plants in all kinds of soils.
No, it has to be the right

579
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:53.239
soil. So that's so so it's
that's such a key piece of uh that

580
00:46:53.440 --> 00:47:00.639
trade provided that you should really take
seriously and not lightly because that that's something

581
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:07.039
that that that's going to pay off
dividends. Amen. Amen, So ad

582
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:09.119
answer. We hope that we were
able to address that, and if not,

583
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:13.800
write your questions down and come back
to us next week most definitely.

584
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:17.519
But Kevin, if you we get
three more minutes, if you can share

585
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:22.679
some of anything that you feel that
you know would be beneficial as part of

586
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:27.119
this conversation, we would love to
hear it. Sure. I just want

587
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:30.159
to thank you first off for what
you do and for having people on here

588
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:37.000
and being encouragement and helping people move
forward in their faith journey with the Lord.

589
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:40.400
I would say just one thing.
Also, I would say count the

590
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:45.960
cost. You know, anything that
is great that is done, I don't

591
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:49.679
care who you ask, I don't
care. What they were successful at do

592
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:53.400
is an intense amount of sacrifice.
And the greater, the greater thing they

593
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:59.679
did, the more sacrifice that's usually
involved. A lot of people don't know,

594
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:05.960
especially if they weren't there in the
beginning of our store. But in

595
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:09.159
order to open our store, and
I knew this going into it because I'd

596
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:15.000
studied and I researched business and everything
else. You know, I worked sixty

597
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:19.440
seventy hours a week for three years
for not a penny in order to get

598
00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:23.519
the store to where it could sustain
itself. So obviously I could only do

599
00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:28.840
that because I was married and my
wife was working full time in the public

600
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:31.119
school system, and so for those
three years, that's what we were living

601
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:37.360
off from. But to get to
year seven, which is this August,

602
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:39.920
you know, the store is sustainable. The store is our primary source of

603
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:46.800
income. We have a handful of
employees that we are paying well if the

604
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:52.559
customers are paying, but you know
they're getting a decent wage. You got

605
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:58.159
to count the cost because there's sacrifice
up front. You know, if if

606
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:02.559
whatever it is, the degree,
the psychology, the counseling ministry, I

607
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:06.360
mean, ask pastor, ask anybody, ask any of you like, there's

608
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.559
sacrifice and you got to be willing
to count the costs. Christ said the

609
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:15.039
same thing. Hey man, Well, thank you again, Kevin, God

610
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:17.639
bless you. And I'm coming to
shop this week. Thank you Jesus.

611
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:23.280
They've got interesting things, guys.
Thank you all, audience, thank you.

612
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:25.960
We love you, We pray for
you. You know this, we

613
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:30.599
are your names are coming up on
our prayer list all the time. We

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just thank you and you know,
but that's our time. We'll see you

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next week, same time, same
station. Night night, y'all night s